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#11042096 - 03/14/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: Seafire]  
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Originally Posted by Seafire
I've played with Unique some....but haven't seen any, in like since shortly after the Afro Ghetto Wonder because our HSIC....

its got versatility also...Have loaded it for kids.. most notable, is 22 grains of Unique with a 150 grain bullet in a 300 Win Mag, will turn it into a 30/30 clone.. right at 2000 fps...

got that one out of a Lyman Cast Bullet manual...

I'll have to try that 12.5 grains in a 243 load...

I love playing with this stuff, as it is fun and also allows a lot of trigger time, without wearing out your rifle barrel...helps ya being a much better shooter come deer season.. especially if the shooter has been volume shooting at small varmints...

Funny you should mention the .300 win mag, I was also shooting some 36 gr Barnes varmint Grenades in Eabco sabots with 25 gr of unique behind them this weekend. The results were inconclusive at this point. The ones that went straight were in a nice group, the rest keyholed and were a foot out of group.

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#11071700 - 03/25/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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I have some data for Alliant STEEL Shotgun Powder and .223, 243, and 30.06. smile
These loads were safe in my guns, your mileage may vary wink

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#11071709 - 03/25/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Some .243 with Alliant STEEL Shotgun Powder.


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#11071714 - 03/25/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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30.06 with Alliant STEEL Shotgun powder.


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#11072343 - 03/25/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Thanks Lane....

Those look like some fun utility loads...

a four pounder or two of Steel looks like it would be a good thing for our varmint season out this way...

I think I only have a pound or two of it...sadly

#11077312 - 03/27/16 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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#11833240 - 02/17/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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#11833418 - 02/17/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: MoranoGrande]  
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I run 12/Blue Dot w/53 V max.....nice around the house popper...223

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#11836106 - 02/18/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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I tried Steel not so good for my rifle, BlueDot and Trail Boss 2 thumbs up, ran across some OLD HS-7 CHEAP went back and bought the rest 10.00 per pound every bit as accurate as BlueDot and Trail boss and just as mild took a leap of faith but it works, TiteGroup is next

#11836322 - 02/18/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: SEM]  
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Try the load JB turned me on to. 12.5 grains IMR4198 and your choice of 50-55 grain bullet.

It is my "go to" load since this thread was started..a few hundred dead gophers can't be wrong!


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#11838049 - 02/19/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Well since it raining guess I'll roll up some IMR 4198 today too, Thanks ingwe

#11853603 - 02/24/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Wow. With those reduced .223 loads, you could use a .223 for everything you'd use a .22lr on up to full throttle .223.



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#11853615 - 02/24/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: stevelyn]  
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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Wow. With those reduced .223 loads, you could use a .223 for everything you'd use a .22lr on up to full throttle .223.




And they are normally very accurate. My reduced loads produce 22 mag velocities, and better accuracy. Pleasant to shoot, no hearing protection, and don't heat the barrel up in prolonged shooting near as bad.


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#11854152 - 02/25/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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#11879847 - 03/06/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: Seafire]  
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Originally Posted by Seafire
I've played with Unique some....but haven't seen any, in like since shortly after the Afro Ghetto Wonder because our HSIC....

its got versatility also...Have loaded it for kids.. most notable, is 22 grains of Unique with a 150 grain bullet in a 300 Win Mag, will turn it into a 30/30 clone.. right at 2000 fps...

got that one out of a Lyman Cast Bullet manual...

I'll have to try that 12.5 grains in a 243 load...

I love playing with this stuff, as it is fun and also allows a lot of trigger time, without wearing out your rifle barrel...helps ya being a much better shooter come deer season.. especially if the shooter has been volume shooting at small varmints...


Seafire, I'm wondering how close a fit Universal is to Unique in the 243 Win with jacketed bullets? Or, comparison to BD? I'm about to open a new 8# jug for my 357 handguns and Marlin 1894, but they only see lead. Universal is readily available.

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#11880014 - 03/06/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Stan, I have to admit, never playing with Universal...

Shotgun powders locally are hit and miss on a consistent basis...

but there are a lot of options out there, and I haven't had the time to play with them all..

so my apologies about not being able to answer your question...


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#11880743 - 03/07/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: Seafire]  
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#11894390 - 03/12/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: stevelyn]  
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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Wow. With those reduced .223 loads, you could use a .223 for everything you'd use a .22lr on up to full throttle .223.



That's the beauty of it. Plus, lower barrel heat, less recoil, less noise, less wear & tear on my body and excellent accuracy. In good dog shooting I go thru 100 rounds in 30-40 minutes.

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#11998493 - 04/26/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: Seafire]  
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Ok, walked into one of my favorite gun shops and found Blue Dot. Bought 2lbs and loaded 40 of these new Fiochi primed 243's highlighted on a thread 2 weeks ago. Dropped 15 grs of Blue Dot and stuck 55gr Nosler Shots on top. Will find out Sunday (weather permitting) how these things shoot.


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#11998673 - 04/26/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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Thanks Seafire!!!!!


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#11999693 - 04/26/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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My pleasure Gentlemen....

anyone looking for Blue Dot loads for a 338 Win Mag? grin


Makes a very effective prairie dog round.... whistle


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#11999700 - 04/26/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: Stan V]  
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Originally Posted by Stan V
Ok, walked into one of my favorite gun shops and found Blue Dot. Bought 2lbs and loaded 40 of these new Fiochi primed 243's highlighted on a thread 2 weeks ago. Dropped 15 grs of Blue Dot and stuck 55gr Nosler Shots on top. Will find out Sunday (weather permitting) how these things shoot.


Don't exceed 22 grains of Blue Dot in a 243...just a reminder...

22 grains with a 95 grain Ballistic Tip will yield about 2600 fps.... maybe a little more...


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#12000041 - 04/26/17 Re: 223 reduce loads [Re: gemby58]  
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And these Fiocchi 243 brass are heavy-- at about 184g with primer. The volume will be less because of it. pressures will be a bit higher than Rem or Win brass wink

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