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For you folks that are familiar with a Kleinguenther k-22 it is a real good choice. It's first cousin made by Mauser the 201 is the exact rifle. These are very light sporter rifles. They are known for their accuracy and show up on GunBroker pretty often. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by centershot
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For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

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Where do you get one of these for $1200?

Shop around for a good used one.

.22 LR's barrels last and last. If the gun looks OK, the barrel will probably be OK.

I traded for this one.

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[quote=Dirtfarmer]For me, it's the Cooper.

I've had Annie, 40X repeater, Win 52, Kimber, all sporters, all since gone down the road.

Still have this one, Cooper Classic with Kahles rimfire 2-7. It's a keeper.

About perfection, IMO.

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I am with DF on this one, I have owned all of the above also and now my go-to is my Cooper 57M Classic.

It will take some patience and careful shopping to find one within your self-imposed limit but it can be done.

My second choice for a sporter would be an older Sako Finnfire or at a lower price level a CZ 452.

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
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Subsonic shoots best at 50yds and can be the most expensive. It may die and hit the ground before 150.
I like my mod 37s for accuracy and my 40x as a tote around rifle.



Butch- I have had best luck at 150 with Eley Tenex and Eley Match. Next best is RWS R50. Lapua Midas and other $20 a box stuff stunk at 150 yards. I can't beat Wolf Match Extra at 50 yards even with the Eley stuff.

I don't even shoot high velocity stuff anymore except when hunting. Wish I could find a nice clean 37.



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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-2 3-9 CDS is a lot of scope for the buck. To me, the new VX-2 series is pretty darn close to the VX-3. In fact, I find it hard to tell much difference. I like the 2-7, as well.

Can you post photos?

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Originally Posted by skeen
You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


I used to think a gun HAD to be a bolt action to be super accurate.

I was wrong.


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Dirt they sure don't. But we'd most likely squabble as a group over what "super accurate" meant;)


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A finely tuned, custom 10-22 can push a good bolt gun on accuracy. Some are pretty amazing.

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
I have a lot of people tell me their 22s will shoot a 1/2" group ( I use 10-shots for 22) but none of them can ever do it.


A buddy at work and I bought Anschutz 1407 repeaters a few years ago. Groups have been easily under 0.5, with 0.2-0.3 not uncommon. These are 54 target rifles though, not sporters.

Shortly after getting the rifles, he made us some targets from angle iron. The goal is to shoot into one of the holes, which causes an L-shaped piece of steel to flip up. If you miss, the splatter shows up outside the hole. You can see the target in the images below (ignore the chickens and orange thing).

Anyway, the smallest "target", or hole is 1/2". At 50 yards, you can put every shot into that hole with the 54 rifles. It's so easy that it gets boring really fast and we don't even bother using that contraption anymore. That buddy has also made lollipop targets from small washers. He puts green painter's tape on the back. You thread the bullet through the hole in the washer and can see the hole in the tape. If you miss the hole and hit the washer, the whole thing spins.

Since getting the Annies, he's come up with all sorts of tiny targets. It's been a hoot.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
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You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


I used to think a gun HAD to be a bolt action to be super accurate.

I was wrong.


That target contraption in my post above has been handy for "weeding" out other rifles. We both have 10-22 rifles that can place most bullets into the 1/2" hole. Sometimes 10 out of 10, but not always. My rifle has a Kidd trigger and Clerke bull barrel. His has a tensioned ultralight barrel. Both have Hogue stocks. I think the light weight of our 10/22 rifles is what holds us back more than anything.


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That's pretty cool Jason..


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
VX-2 3-9 CDS is a lot of scope for the buck. To me, the new VX-2 series is pretty darn close to the VX-3. In fact, I find it hard to tell much difference. I like the 2-7, as well. Can you post photos? DF



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I'm hoping Barrett keeps their word and builds a 22lr.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ba...ion-new-fieldcraft-rifle-shot-show-2017/

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Originally Posted by tkinak
I'm hoping Barrett keeps their word and builds a 22lr.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ba...ion-new-fieldcraft-rifle-shot-show-2017/



How does that end up in a 22 thread? Barrett is building CENTERFIRE rifles from what I read.


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Originally Posted by 4th_point
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You'd be hard-pressed to find a Cooper .22 for <$1200 bucks.
I know it's not a bolt action, but, if I were spending a grand + on a .22, I'd strongly consider a Kidd 10/22 http://www.coolguyguns.com/RIFLES_c_10.html


I used to think a gun HAD to be a bolt action to be super accurate.

I was wrong.


That target contraption in my post above has been handy for "weeding" out other rifles. We both have 10-22 rifles that can place most bullets into the 1/2" hole. Sometimes 10 out of 10, but not always. My rifle has a Kidd trigger and Clerke bull barrel. His has a tensioned ultralight barrel. Both have Hogue stocks. I think the light weight of our 10/22 rifles is what holds us back more than anything.



I wouldn't consider 1/2" at 50 yards super accurate for a good 22.

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How about .28" at 50 yards?


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The Sako Quad would meet the criteria along with the KDF K22 and Mauser 201 that Hasbeen mentioned.

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Coopers do pop from time to time for around the $1200 mark, this one was here the other day for a short time before someone jumped on it -
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/11839659/Searchpage/2/Main/813199/Words/cooper/Search/true/Re:_WTS:_Cooper_57M_Classic


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