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Has anyone handled or purchased this action? I've had some of his non titaniums actions, but don't know anything about thisin a custom rifle. Thoughts?
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my thoughts are it is as good as his standard action and all should be fine with it....Jim is a very meticulous person and likes for things to right
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I've been eye-balling his new stuff on his updated website. Thinking about ordering a titanium Alpine for a build, I sure like my other Alpine a lot.
Was actually going to start a new thread about which Ti actions to choose, there are several out these days.
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I've been eye-balling his new stuff on his updated website. Thinking about ordering a titanium Alpine for a build, I sure like my other Alpine a lot.
Was actually going to start a new thread about which Ti actions to choose, there are several out these days. I'd like to see/hear this discussion. The new LPA fuzion TI action is one that has my eye. To the original question, I've not handled the Borden TI, but if you've owned his none TI actions I can't imagine them being much different other than lighter.
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Was actually going to start a new thread about which Ti actions to choose, there are several out these days.
I'd like to hear this as well. It looks to be that Mcwhorter rifles have tried Jims ti action on some of their rifles....just haven't seen them on the forums.
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I've been eye-balling his new stuff on his updated website. Thinking about ordering a titanium Alpine for a build, I sure like my other Alpine a lot.
Was actually going to start a new thread about which Ti actions to choose, there are several out these days. I'd like to see/hear this discussion. The new LPA fuzion TI action is one that has my eye. To the original question, I've not handled the Borden TI, but if you've owned his none TI actions I can't imagine them being much different other than lighter. Yup, I've been really looking into that one as well. I recall Calvin saying if he built on a Ti action it would be that one. Between the Borden, Pierce and the Lone Peak Action not sure any would be the wrong choice for a build.
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Skip it... AK has a better link below...
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Marty, here is the link to the Lone Peak Ti. Its not as pretty as the Borden but seems like a nice action & decent price. http://www.lonepeakarms.com/razor-ti
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Sure been pondering a Ti Borden for that 7stw Gradous build! The Pierce I have are nice too!
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Jim makes a great receiver. It appears that John's is $300 lesser expensive. I think it may be a little lighter. Quality wise, I would use either. If you buy one you need to do the PVD either on the bolt body or receiver. I have a Pierce Ti and it is a very good receiver.
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Jim makes a great receiver. It appears that John's is $300 lesser expensive. I think it may be a little lighter. Quality wise, I would use either. If you buy one you need to do the PVD either on the bolt body or receiver. I have a Pierce Ti and it is a very good receiver. Yes 300.00 lesser(Jim @ Pierce), but weight all done up with cuts and recoil lug you're looking @ approximately 1oz and change difference in weight. Spoke with Jim Borden and he said the Timberline is 21 oz and Jim @ Pierce LA magnum is 19.9 without his Ti lug or the standard. This thread have me possibly doing a Bordan depending on my funds 😁!
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Of all the 700 clone choices on the market, Echols selected the SS Borden for his daughters rifle. and Mr Borden will tell you- that the only thing with Ti Bordens, is they are not as smooth as the SS ones, simply because of the metallurgical nature of Titanium.
However some form of modern hard-coating like DLC over titanium , will deliver a much better coefficient of friction on bearing surfaces, even better than SS. ...DLC has one of the lowest co-efficient of friction ratings.
But me, based on smoothness level of the rem700 Ti, could quite easily live with uncoated Ti no problem.
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Thanks for the information....
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Just talked to John. The Pierce Ti receiver with a Ti recoil lug and the new Ti bolt is $1800 and weighs 16oz. The all Ti units are 5-6 months lead time. Ti with the light CM bolt is a 3 month lead time. They are having the bolts treated, but I didn't ask which treatment.
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looks like by the time your done you will be at the price of a nula and the weight of a nula roughly
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New Ti bolt is interesting short or long action on the 16oz Butch?
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For those interested, this is a 700 clone with Ti reciever and Ti bolt. and was made at least 15 yrs ago, so the idea of an all Ti '700' is not ground breaking. Be aware one can encounter metal galling issues with Ti on Ti. Make sure anyone offering such a product has got that issue properly sorted out. Hence why a differential surface harder steel is typically used for bolts in preference to Ti.
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Galling^^^^ is what I'd be afraid of but feel the coating Butch mentioned would minimize if not eliminate it on the Ti Pierce. Starman nice rifle!
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