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After recovering from the stroke/hart attack I had over using a .243 on elk, I remember two elk last year the fell to a .45 ACP. Both had broken back legs and probably other internal damage, but a .230 grain hollow point to the spine at 10 yards finished them. I suspect a .270 would be fine on elk, although I've never hunted with one. The only .270 I've shot was in an old M700 with a wood stock. It seemed pretty snappy off the bench, but I suspect the stock had a lot to do with that. Compared to my 7 pound 300 WM, the recoil is more manageable in the 300. Most likely because the stock is much better. I was also expecting no recoil in the 270....
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I grew up believing the 270 was not adequate enough for Elk based off all I read. I never even considered using it. The about five years ago I witnessed several damn nice bulls killed every year with one shot from a 270 and suddenly experience replaced what I read. Imagine that.
Keep your shots realistic and ethical, take you time, use a good 270 bullet, and I wouldn't even read another post on this thread. Rock on and hunt elk with a 270.
"Never miss the opportunity to shut the f$%K up." Colonel Hopewell.
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I was shooting 150 grain NPs on the one elk hunt my 270 got to go on.
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And for some reason the 160r Partition has been super accurate in any 270 I have ever tried it in. Including a 270Wy mag. It is the best bullet for Caribouon up to and including Moose for the 270Dees IMHO. Friend of mine uses the 160 Partition exclusively, just 'cause. He knows the 150 works as well but at the shorter ranges he hunts, there's no down side to the 160 and he's learned to trust it. Confidence matters.
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With my 243 and 100gr NPt's a close second...........
Casey You just caused a few strokes. Thats for sure.
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The 270 has always been my go-to gun for elk; if you want or feel the need for bigger, then to me, to get a real improvement, the most meaningful step up is to a 338. All the really top notch premium bullets available today have only the 270 (and pretty much everything else) better. MM Picture Perfect ![[Linked Image]](http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o56/baw0000/NPBullets1Small.jpg)
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Great recoveries. Doesn't get much better than that.
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I don't have two degrees, I have one, I never worked for Remington or on any military projects. I'm still proud of my qualifications to comment on elk cartridges.
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Have killed one elk and several Nilgai with a .270 and 130 grain Corelokts. I thought they worked just fine. I was quite ashamed for a number of years after I started reading forums and found out how grossly inadequate standard cup and core bullets are for elk and nilgai.
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I killed a big herd bull with a 270, bearc CLaw. Never found the bullet. He went about 30 yds.
My brother killed several with his post 64 70 ftw schnable 270 using hornady interlocks.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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MCMXI,
I'll match your "good friend who's been a professional guide for 30 years, who is paid to speak all over the country and who won't use anything smaller than a .300 Win Mag for elk" with an elk outfitter from Colorado. At the time I got to know him 10-12 years ago, he's been guiding and outfitting elk hunters for 30 years, and Colorado has more elk than any other state.
He and his guides liked to exchange info on what rifles and bullets their clients used, and the results, and since those clients took around 30 elk a year, I thought this might be statistically valid info. So I asked him what cartridge he thought was a good minimum for elk, and he said, "Two-fifty-seven."
I asked, "Roberts or Weatherby?"
He said, "Either one!" This one caught a 257 100gr tsx and flopped. ![[Linked Image]](http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z16/gyonemura/P2100197Small_zps10bb3442.jpg)
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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high_country,
Good job!
Was it a Roberts or Weatherby? The elk my wife "flopped" with a 100 TTSX in 2014 was taken with a Roberts, muzzle velocity 3150 fps. I was expecting the cow to go 30-50 yards before falling, but instead it dropped at the shot. It was angling-away, and after the bullet entered the rear of the right ribs it went through both lungs, ticking the underside of the spinal column before ending up in the far shoulder.
Might also note that out friend MCMXI hasn't logged on again since March 13th. Evidently he ran out of new "evidence" of the effectiveness of his .375 H&H.
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Probably just working on some Gaussian distributions.
Those things don't just grow on trees, you know.
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John, this was as a Roy, but it was at 400yds......so I'm confident that the Bob would be more than plenty.
Fwiw, my pard shot a 300rum 15 feet away from me at a cow 15 feet away from my cow. He never did catch up with her.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Yeah, you gotta hit 'em right to drop 'em!
Doesn't surprise me about the .257 Weatherby. Both Eileen and I have used "both" .257's with excellent results....
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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Yeah, you gotta hit 'em right to drop 'em!
Doesn't surprise me about the .257 Weatherby. Both Eileen and I have used "both" .257's with excellent results.... Braggert. So this means others of less stature can? Ha. I suggest those with less capability, stick with the venerable two-seven-tee. 
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I've shot quite a few elk with a 270 using 150 gr Speer Hotcores. They always worked great with good expansion and weight retention.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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Amazing how many use 150 gr
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This Michigan bull didn't seem to like the 150 grn core-lokt out of my .270. I would have used 150 grn Nosler Partitions, but at the time I was shopping I couldn't find any in stock. ![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-G5P6zrQ/0/O/i-G5P6zrQ.jpg)
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I've used the 130 gr Ballistic Tips on elk for 20 years. They work.
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The longer you elk hunt, the more you modify your thoughts on cartridges.
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