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Remember, this is a deer hunting thread. I'm looking for a 220gn bullet for my 30-06. Round nose, semi or Spitzer, I don't care. I just want something that is not too tough. I'm considering the Hornady RN, AS I assume it's not designed for magnums. I'm considering the Partitions because of their soft front. I am willing to choose others.
I am a big fan of Spitzers in my guns. I use the 150gn Partitions in my 7x57 and both 165gn Partitions and Ballistic Tips in my 30-06. I have begun to use 175 RNs in my 7x57 when pig hunting and I know that most shots will be 100yds or so. They are deadly and destroy a lot less meat. Sometimes I have a chance at deer. I'm thinking I might try using 220s to the same effect. What 220gn bullets should I choose for my 30-06? Captdavid


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40 years ago or so, when I was very poor, I used a few Remington Corelokts that were 220 gr. to kill deer with. They were left over from a bear hunt my father had been on. They killed deer fine when shot thru the lungs. They did make the 50 to 100 yard death run just like you will see with many deer rounds. The plus side is little to no damaged meat.

Now are there better bullets for both hogs and deer, the answer is yes. Again I was young and poor and used what I had. A 180 gr cup and core bullet from a 30-06 will kill both hogs and deer better than the 220 gr., and a 165 gr. will be even better. You can get the 180 gr. in a round nose bullet if that is what you must have.

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Too much of a good thing in my opinion. But if that is what I had they will kill deer. I wouldn't deliberately choose them for anything smaller than moose.


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I shot some feral cattle with Remington factory 220-grain CoreLokts. Good weight for bigger stuff, but I'd pick something lighter for deer and focus on shot placement if you're concerned about meat loss.


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220 gr round nose bullets kill on one end of the rifle and cripple on the other end!!!! Too much punishment for a whitetail in my opinion but then I am 71 yo. Your 150 gr partition will be hard to beat IMO.








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I used 220 on Idaho elk about 35 years ago. I am 4 other friends all used them. I loaded Hornady and a one box of Sierras. I can't remember any of my friends ever saying a bad thing abut them on elk, deer or bear and also 1 moose. There were 5 of us using the ammo I loaded. This went on for about 6 years. The 220s work great. Just a big fairly soft bullet at about 2500 FPS from the muzzle.

My friend Pete also killed a bison with one.
Nothing remarkable to report, but no failures at all. I know Pete recovered his bullet from the off-side of the buff under the hide. I don't remember anyone else recovering one from any animal. I never did.
Just a nice exit on everything and good sized wound channels about 1.5" around

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I see you're really eaten up with this idea. grin

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Have you given thought to the 220 gr RN from Sierra?


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I shoot 150's at deer, doesn't take much to kill a deer.

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Originally Posted by JMR40
Too much of a good thing in my opinion. But if that is what I had they will kill deer. I wouldn't deliberately choose them for anything smaller than moose.


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mathman, Speaking of eaten up, one can almost smile eat up smile to the hole when I use the 7x57 using 175 RNs!

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"It's not how hard you hit 'em, it's where you hit 'em." The 30-06 will, with the right bullet, successfully take any game animal in North America up to 300yds.

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Those big bullets work well without shooting up a bunch of meat. I was hunting with a buddy who used a 30-06 Federal 220 factory load to shoot a mule deer fawn at right around 250 yards. Bullet expanded adequately and deer was killed efficiently without hardly any bloodshot meat.
I personally used a 30-06 Lapua Mega 200 gr. RN to shoot a couple of roe deer in Germany. They are about half the size of Whitetails. Also used that bullet on a couple of young wild boar. Perfect results.
The only thing a faster lighter bullet would have done is shoot up more meat, it would not have killed deader, and could not have killed quicker. The recoil difference is irrelevant to an experienced shooter.

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I've done it just to see how it would work and the results weren't impressive. The two deer I shot stayed on their feet longer than any deer shot by me with 150 grain PSP from Remington or Federal. My sporterized Springfield didn't shoot them well at all nor did my Browning BAR. Both averaged about 2.5 MOA at 100 yards. Good enough for deer hunting but not what I'm used to from a bench on windless days. Plus the recoil was noticeably more rambunctious than the 150's. Glad I tried them but never again for whitetails.

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Originally Posted by captdavid
What 220gn bullets should I choose for my 30-06? Captdavid


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Originally Posted by captdavid
mathman, Speaking of eaten up, one can almost smile eat up smile to the hole when I use the 7x57 using 175 RNs!


Or a 165gr using a 30-06.

It shoots faster, less recoil. What are you looking to do. The 220 doesn't kill harder. It will recoil considerably harder.

A 130gr ttsx would be even better.


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I wouldn't pick a 220gr unless I was culling doe. You should go straight to the 240gr Woodleigh.


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Originally Posted by captdavid
mathman, Speaking of eaten up, one can almost smile eat up smile to the hole when I use the 7x57 using 175 RNs!


OK, but is that a property of heavy round nose bullets per se? Or, is it more the result of modest impact speeds which give less "splash" to the wounding effect?

I submit that just about any 180 grain bullet loaded to 300 Savage ballistics would do the same.

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Thanks, I think, for all the responses, but could we PLEASE get back to my original question!?

What is the softest 220gn bullet, regardless of shape for my 30-06?

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nowhere in your OP did you ask for the softest 220gr bullet.

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You didn't like the answers the first time around so you're trying again?


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