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i finally broke down an ordered a .358winchester in a browning model 81lever.
i am kind of enambered of .35 caliber rifles.
Anybody ever use this?
I was with a guy that used a browning in this caliber on a deer.
it was pretty much a big hole on the other side coming out.
The thought of using handgun projectiles as well as up to 250grain rifle projectiles appeals to me. too.
thoughts?
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I had a Savage 99 Series A in .358 Win for awhile. I never could get it to shoot the way I wanted, and I didn't want to mess with it so I let it go. I had a sub MOA .35 Whelen as well so it wasn't hard to say goodbye to the .358. Now I don't have any .35 calibers as I went a year without work because of an injury and I needed cash so the Whelen went down the road.
I never shot handgun bullets in either of my .35's but I did shoot some cast bullets. I pretty much stuck to 225 grain bullets mainly Hornady, but I never took any game with either. I'll have a .35 caliber again some day and it's kind of a toss up between the .358 Win and.358 Norma.
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I had a Savage 99 Series A in .358 Win for awhile. I never could get it to shoot the way I wanted, and I didn't want to mess with it so I let it go. I had a sub MOA .35 Whelen as well so it wasn't hard to say goodbye to the .358. Now I don't have any .35 calibers as I went a year without work because of an injury and I needed cash so the Whelen went down the road.
I never shot handgun bullets in either of my .35's but I did shoot some cast bullets. I pretty much stuck to 225 grain bullets mainly Hornady, but I never took any game with either. I'll have a .35 caliber again some day and it's kind of a toss up between the .358 Win and.358 Norma. I have a 35remington, a 350rem mag, and the 358norma mag. But no Whelen. I was debating about going for the browning, but i think it can be loaded pretty close to the whelen, and the lever attracted me being left handed. that deer i saw get plugged a couple years ago he had a 225grain hornady in it. I think you could have passed a football out the other side of the deer, it really wacked it.
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i have 35 rem, 350 rem and 35 whelen. big fan of the 35's. my little 77rs carbine 358 is a serious shooter with hornady factory or the old silver tips. and deer never take a step. that blr outta be quite a dandy.
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Im hopeing that Henry will chamber the 358 Winchester,in there new levergun ( looks like the BLR )
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158 RP JSP flatten woods deer at 2,000. Milk jugs vaporized at 3k mv at 200yd.
225 Sierra 150-300 yds on deer etc
Would use 225 PTs or Barnes in anything nasty. And Elk
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I put together a cute little 358 carbine with a 16" barrel for bear. I love how it handles. Top gun. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z371/Weather223/DSC_0001_zpsxlnsasqt.jpg)
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158 RP JSP flatten woods deer at 2,000. Milk jugs vaporized at 3k mv at 200yd.
225 Sierra 150-300 yds on deer etc
Would use 225 PTs or Barnes in anything nasty. And Elk i subscribe to the loaddata website. found a load for the lyman cast 358156 which i have powder coated. kind of wondering on say a xtp 158grain how it would hold up at those high velocities?
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I have a.358 Win in a Mod 88 Winchester. I think you will like the caliber. The deer I have shot with it have had holes out of both sides no matter the angle. The holes going out were like a cookie cutter was used to cut the hide out. Plenty of blood loss. I use it where there is thick brush.
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My first deer rifle 33 years ago was a BLR 358. I've loved 35s ever since. I do find I favor the 336 ER in 356 slightly, over the BLR, and have never warmed up to the 99, in looks or it's limitations. 200/225gr Accubonds are fun bullets in either. The truth is that loading all sorts of stuff to see what all a 356/358 can do can keep you busy for a long time. Nothing has ever walked away from mine...Not far, anyway.
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Three for me, the 99 shown below on my back porch, a Ruger Hawkeye, and a Ruger 77. Any used .358 production rifle in decent shape (other than the BLR) is worth at least $1K. For factory rifles the BLR is the most common. Ammo can be hard to come by, but it is out there... ![[Linked Image]](http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1600/481405/1105271/408810172.jpg)
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I have a Pre-64 Model 70 FWT in 358 Win.
Unfortunately, I have never shot a deer with it.
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The 358 Winchester has been my primary deer and big game cartridge since 1966 when I got my first one, a Savage 99F.
I have a few rifles so chambered in the M70 & Mannlicher.
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I've been wanting one for several months. My plan is to use a Kimber 84M and have the barrel cut to 20" so I can have JES bore it out.
I've been talking with a guy on here that cut one down even more but he assures me there is enough metal at 20" for Jes to bore it out. I just haven't completely decided if I want the Montana or a blued and walnut version.
The 358 win seems like such a classic caliber that I might go walnut and blued.I'll add a Leupold 1.5-5 with heavy duplex to hunt the thick stuff on the river bottoms.
I'll get it done but i have to save a while first. I've bought another rifle and am scoping it now with my limited funds.
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18" isn't too short for a 356/358....They're more efficient than any other 308-based cartridge I know of for barrel length
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Have two 358 win ......rem 7600 carbine which shoots 200 gr very well.....rem 700 AI which prefers 225 gr slugs .......locate JB's article on the 358 and TAC POWDER and don't look. further , velocity and accuracy .
Have killed multiple deer and bear and wished had found the 35 caliber in my younger years I might have killed more .
Also 35 Whelan with 250 gr slugs an RL15 is my moose rifle for multiple hunts.
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I've owned a .358W BLR and own two Savage 99 .358Ws. I use 225 gr PTs and 250 gr Hawk bullets on everything, much better than 200 gr Silvertips. W748 or W760 seem to do the trick, but will try TAC. My hunting loads are 1-1.5 MOA. This is a great cartridge for deer, black bears, wild boar, and it would suffice for elk and moose. I love this rifle for hunting the thick stuff, but an open country rifle it is not, I consider 250-300 yards it's outer limit. A lighter Barnes might change that a bit, but I much prefer bonded bullets. Also, they are scoped with 1.5-5x Leupolds, although I have used the iron sights quite a bit as well.
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Mine is an Interarms Mk X action re-barreled by pac-nor in 358. Puts the 200 gr. Hornady's in itty-bitty groups and hammers deer.
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I've had .358's for about 40 years, 99s, BLRs, and a Model 70, which I have presently. Killed everything from coyotes to elk and never had to shoot more than once. Speer 250's were used on elk, Sierra 225 on most everything else and I don't remember using the 200 grain on any game. I now use cast bullets mostly and the 358156 is such fun pushed along with 11 grains of Unique, I'm surprised it isn't illegal. I had a mold made that drops a 225 gr. FN for deer hunting but, darn deer hasn't cooperated. I forgot to add that Model 70 has kept me from buying a 9.3x57 or 9.3x62 so it has saved me quite a bit of money. 
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I had a BLR twenty or so years ago. It shot pretty well even with a rather poor trigger. Never did kill anything with it. My current 358 is a custom on a pre-64 M70 action. This one has been to Africa taking a dozen critters with the 200 gr TTSX. Here's a nice hog I took with it. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa437/boxhead61/Africa420-1.jpg)
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