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i think i got a couple boxes of those hawk bullets. Is it true you should keep velocities down around 2000fps with them, or am i thinking of something else.

I have a bunch of those 358156 cast, with gas checks and powder coated. Just got to wait for the brass to come in.
glad to hear about the 11grains of unique, thought it had to be around there somewhere.

I shoot the 225 Sierra GK's and 225 Partition in mine.
Prefer less thump these days but can't bring myself to move it.

I love the 358 Win, but am primarily a bolt rifle user. I'd love to have a custom like EdM showed up above. In the meantime, I "settled" on a 338 Federal in a Sako Hunter. It pretty much does what a 358 will do, but ammo is available and cheap.

Well, best of luck with it. My 358 is a bolt rifle, but it barely works.



And even my 9 year-old, now 10, loves to shoot the little Model Seven (with a few grains of Blue Dot pushing a 200 grain Lyman cast bullet down the bore).

Moose, bear, rabbits, caribou... they tip over when she barks.

I've got a Browning BLR in 358 Win. My favorite load so far is Win 748 and a 225 Partition or Sierra. Runs about 2450 in my rifle and is pretty accurate.

I've got a 35 Rem, 358 Win, 2x 35 Whelens, 350 Rem Mag and a 35 Newton. I love the 358's.

Cool pictures fellas!

Nice moose Klikitarik and EdM, that's one ugly hog but, a pretty rifle!:-)

I have a supply of match lake city 7.62x51 brass i was thinking of cutting down and fireforming to .358. Anybody ever do this to get brass for the .358?

that picture is kind of what got me on the bandwagon. The thought of using 158grain handgun bullets, and a heavy grain for big animals.
We don't have moose in arizona, but of the four or five elk i have shot none have been beyond about 75yards.
I have a .375winchester, but hornady doesn't seem to want to make 225grain projectiles that i can run up to about 2300fps.
I am firing cast lead in that at about 1800fps with 240grain.
the .358 should give me a similar weight bullet at over the 1800fps comfortably.
I could accomplish almost the same thing in the 350rem mag, cepting it's not suppose to like to feed in a rem660 the 250grainers, and while i have proper brass for it, it's like finding hen's teeth to find it.

To answer the question on Hawk bullets, they are bonded, solid copper jackets and lead cores and they work great at standard velocities and can be ordered with different jacket thicknesses. The .358 250s stomp hard. I'm taking delivery of a 338 Federal Savage 99 custom that has been a long time coming, thinking it might extend the range a bit, but fully realize it's splitting hairs a bit from a hunting perspective. The 200 gr Northforks and 210 gr Scirocco should work great. Reports to follow receipt of rifle.

Don't have a BLR but do have a Ruger Frontier that is extremely accurate...





Got a MeHic mold and it works well...

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I've killed deer with it using the 220 Speer flat point but with the short barrel there is no expansion...that is why I went to the cast...it has a HP...


Did you get the take-down? My friend was looking for a bear defense rifle for a light aircraft trip to remote strips in Alaska and I found him one... He made the case...

KillsAll...





I have thought about one like this but in the silver finish...just have not done it yet...

Bob

Hawk bullets are NOT bonded.

for my uses the simple sierra 200 grain round nose is all I will need for a deer. Think I am going to trade my ruger sr762 for the blr takedown in ss.

Roninphx , match brass work fine for the 358 . I resize and then for my 358AI fire form , will require a trim but is great brass . Remember for you existing loads you need to step down and work up , military brass has less case capacity .

Use military match brass for all of my wildcats , do not like head stamps on modified calibers

mine might be in tomorrow, monday. Funnypart is ordering through a lgs who calls davidsons warehouse in prescott which is maybe ten minutes from my house up there. It is not a breakdown, on hind sight i kind of wish i had went that way.
This .358 stuff all comes from a dead deer plugged by a friend of mine couple of years ago, it just was "awesome."

got a rather large supply of lake city circa i think without looking late 60's. it should last a long time i would think being heavier.
looking forward to it.

I have a pre-81 BLR and an early 60s Savage 99 in 358 Win. The BLR is the gun I use for black bear and I have taken several of them with this gun. I shoot 250 gr Hornady round nose over H335 in it and they have done well. The factory Silvertips have left me wanting on thetwo bears I have shot with them. Shooting over bait is a close range affair and the Silvertips seem to be a bit soft for the purpose. The bears did die but the blood trail was pretty poor and did not instill confidence when following in the dark.

The 99 isn't blooded yet, at least not by me. The Silvertips scattered all over the target in this gun and the Hornadys ran around 2" at one hundred yards. I saw Mule Deer's article on the 358 so picked up some 220 gr Speer and some 225 gr Sierras as well as TAC which I hope group better.

I had a 788 that someone had rebored. I loaded some 140 XTPs pretty fast in it and used it to turn varmints into clouds of hair drifting in the wind. I'd not recommend that load on deer but a 158 FP might be worth a try.

I always ended up leaving it home on my big game hunts because I mostly hunt southern Idaho and I always wanted to be prepared for a longish shot. A few years ago I got rid of most of my mid bores trying to simplify things. I always seemed to grab my 7-08 with 162's or my 260 or creedmoor when wanting light and handy. They kill well up close and give me more confidence out far. I unloaded my 35 whelen, 338 rcm, and my 358's but a 358 still appeals to me for some impractical reason. A clean 99 or browning may one day sneak into my safe if the opportunity presents. I could always use pistol bullets on rabbits again.

Bb

need has never had anything to do with why we buy rifles, I don't think I need a 358 to shoot 150-180 pound whitetail deer. I have killed big deer with a 223! However its kind of "why not" and I have never had a BLR. I don't know if the take down is a smart idea but its kind of double cool even if I don't need it. So with the .358 I will have 3 less popular calibers, 257 roberts, 6.8spc, and .358.

I bought a ruger hawkeye in 358 but had to send the thing back to them as it would not faithfully fire the cartridges. They had used 308 win dimensions on the chamber as far as I could determine measuring fired shells. It would ignite federal primers but it was not reliable. Really wanted that gun to work.

RJM, what brand front sight on your Frontier?