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Williams... I have the short base on the .358 and the standard base on the .308. Both are LOW with a XS white line post front.

Ed. Nice M70. Specs?

I recall Rich at Sierra using H335 over their 225's....

Ron - I'd say your XTP would do fine at the 357 rifle speeds aka 2k. At 3k they would be a bomb on broadside lung shots.

My feelings are this round dotes on 225's for big game - better BC than 200's and likely penetration. Better trajectory than 250's.

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http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/358_wcf.htm

i don't even have the rifle yet, but so far two orders from midway.
last night it was a lee 200grain mold, gas checks and one of those push sizers dies.
I am going to powder coat them after putting on gas checks.

I believe a 22 and a 35 Cal could be a full battery for most of us. A 25-20, and 30-35 cal, plus something black powder is better for the hand loader. I don't follow my own advice however.

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I bought the rifle from the guy that was opening a large shop that I cannot recall. He sells the Ruger #1 safeties... He listed it and dropped it every 30 minutes IIRC. He was gearing up to open his business and I was home from my 28/28 Kazakhstan assignment but middle of the night, for me. The clocks aligned... He has offered to buy it back...

I love 358's, here's my old one, model 88 22" shilen, Roosevelt bull here in wa....

I had to kind of laugh yesterday, picking up the browning.
Counterguy was running me through the 4473, and had to list the caliber.
Looked at me and asked whats a .358 winchester?
Shouldn't be surprised, the wall behind him had every black rifle known to mankind, but no traditional type rifles.

i should add that blr is a really neat little rifle.

Yes they are. IMO, you'll be happier in the long run than trying to find a 99 to spend too much $ on, only to realize you got nothing as good as that BLR or any decent bolt gun, save possibly some prettier wood or case hardening on a lever. Also, I noticed a comment about the 220 FPs and short barrels vs expansion. IME, those Speer FP pills are hard to get to expand, period. The factory Hornady and Winchester loads are better loads.

I wouldn't go that far, at least not concerning the BLR/99 comparison.

Gears don't make a BLR better and you just try and pull one apart and put it back together.

I sent my Kimber Montana .308 win off to JES to be rebored and cut back to 16".

Here it is put back together after I got it back from JES reboring (my Kimber 338-06 below it):




Here is my Kimber Montana .358 win cut back to 16" after some fancy metal work simply for style points.



Shooting 110 XTPs sub sonic is a ball and even my buddy's 7 year old couldn't get enough of plinking with it. Recoil was nil.

Got 160 Cutting Edge Raptors going 2810 fps and 225 partitions doing 2420 fps which isn't too shabby for a 16".

Gonna test the Cutting Edge raptors on some Sitka deer and a caribou this fall and maybe even a grizzly bear this summmer.

Certainly a fun gun to carry and now that its ported recoil is less than it was when it was a .308.

Coveting that great little Montana!

i loaded my first batch of ammo today using 200gr hornady interlocks. I have some 250grainers to load tomorrow, same bullet, then some 158grain pistol cast lead powdercoated.
I got to do some research pretty quick wondering on those 250's what the minimum velocity is to open up.

I can't tell you that, but can absolutely tell you they just about explode at 2400. The Speer and Nosler 250s are much better in my experience.

I have in my notes at 1600 fps the 250 RN would have reliable expansion. This is from Hornady, not experience.

Tell us the load you are using to get 2400fps from a 250 gr bullet in a 358?

Heck, Buffalo Bore used to sell 250s at over 2400.....I've still got some somewhere. No problems running 225s well past 2500, either.....At least in most of my 358s. I consider my 225gr NAB at 2400-2450 to be fairly copacetic and good to 500yards....If ever needed.

Hey now my little 358 win has to work at it to get 2400 fps with its 16" barrel

I bet. 20" seems about optimum, at least to wring out what it can do....Plus, one of mine has no constraints on mag length and has a loong throat. Seated way out and 20+" of barrel is different to work with than a 16" short boxed repeater, LOL

I killed a bunch of stuff with a 35 Whelen YEARS ago with 250's doing what I assumed was 2500fps (before I bought a chronograph).

Come to find out that years later those 250's were doing 2250