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Actually, I vary my loads downward or to more reasonable loads for my uses....Don't have to start a 225gr accubond much above 2250, to keep it above 1800 to 300.....And it's way more fun to shoot in a light gun. LOL

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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
I bet. 20" seems about optimum, at least to wring out what it can do....Plus, one of mine has no constraints on mag length and has a loong throat. Seated way out and 20+" of barrel is different to work with than a 16" short boxed repeater, LOL


For sure an extra 4" would give me an extra 100 fps but I am fine with the shorty. 160s at 2800 fps is flat enough to 400 and if I wanted to shoot further than that I gave other rifles I can use for that application.

Something about a 34" rifle that's only 4.25 pounds that makes it oh so nice to carry in my hands or in my pack.

I agree though if one wanted to take full advantage of the cartridge a 20-22" barrel would be optimum certainly.

As is it has the same trajectory to 300 yards with similar weight bullets as my 308 did but with 4" less barrel.

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I can't tell you that, but can absolutely tell you they just about explode at 2400. The Speer and Nosler 250s are much better in my experience.
Tell us the load you are using to get 2400fps from a 250 gr bullet in a 358?


JB's load using TAC from his article in Rifle or Handloader. My hawkeye likes it.

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My encore with a 20" 356/358 barrel fits near that niche for me....I also have a 16.25" 357 Max that's even handier....But I'm still jonesin for an 18" full stocked 358 bolt gun, to go with everthin else 35 I have.

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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
My encore with a 20" 356/358 barrel fits near that niche for me....I also have a 16.25" 357 Max that's even handier....But I'm still jonesin for an 18" full stocked 358 bolt gun, to go with everthin else 35 I have.


That would be a sweet little gun for sure!! Its a 358 win so I have no illusions about being a 500 yard plinker so I am good with giving up 100 fps to get 4" shorter rifle for the close range stuff. smile

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I feel that same way about my 35 Whelen. The guys who are hung up on 30-06 just don't know what they are missing.
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Originally Posted by whelennut
I feel that same way about my 35 Whelen. The guys who are hung up on 30-06 just don't know what they are missing.
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Originally Posted by pabucktail
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I can't tell you that, but can absolutely tell you they just about explode at 2400. The Speer and Nosler 250s are much better in my experience.
Tell us the load you are using to get 2400fps from a 250 gr bullet in a 358?


JB's load using TAC from his article in Rifle or Handloader. My hawkeye likes it.
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another reason for me to buy a .358, I have 10 pounds of TAC I bought during the recent presidents attempts at gun control.


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Originally Posted by hh4whiskey
But I'm still jonesin for an 18" full stocked 358 bolt gun, to go with everthin else 35 I have.


I wish Remington made the Model Seven MS (custom shop) in 358Winchester.

That would be one sweet rifle!

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Don't have a .358 but I do have a Model 7 in .350 Rem.Mag with a 20 barrel. It is is a beautiful rifle and handles great.

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I will get up more pics when I get the chance, but I also like .358W.

Built two Remington 700s in the caliber, as well as an AR-10 (18") and a spare short (10" barrel) AR-10 upper (yes, I have a tax stamp for the SBR).

The 10" version is MOA+, but looses some velocity... the other three are now at 1/2" MOA without the can. MOA with the can.

48gr BL-C(2) at 2510fps... Nosler 225s (6 round group at 3 o'clock... 100 yards)

Early load development (4 ladders tested) on new GM barrel in one of the R700s (6 round groups w/ 2-10 Minox ZA duplex).

Disregard notes on the paper (that was a different gun).

Small black dot (aiming point) at 3 o'clock is 3/4".

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Who made those AR .358 barrels?

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I bought a BLR 358 a year ago March. It will shoot 200 or 250 grain bullets, jacketed or cast, very well if I use IMR 3031 powder. No other powder I've tried is as accurate. A Hornady 200gr FTX and 48gr 3031 killed a respectable whitetail buck last November. It's nice not being wrist deep in blood when dressing out the deer. But if I measure the barrel according to RCMP instructions, it's only 19 inches long. I think that's too short for a foreigner to take hunting in Canada.

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TAC is the [bleep] for 225's on up and JB is forever sainted in my book for telling us so. Prior, I fought great battles with powder compression... no more.

I tried to get him to try RL7 for lighter bullets (up to 200 grains) in .358 in that article but he did not. If you try RL7 it'll blow your mind. 2675 fps w/200's easily from my 20" tube, brass life is forever, no pressure signs... just sayin


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Really liking the sounds and all the reviews I have read lately on the 358 win. Has anyone used the starline brass in their 358? I have a line on a cz550 fs in 243 and I'm thinking about buying it and having JES do the rebore. I can't decide if the full stock is something I want to keep or not is my biggest dilemma at the moment!

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First .358 Win was a Ruger 77RS Carbine; second was a Tikka 595 in .308 re-barreled by Pac-Nor, and last was a Ruger Hawkeye. My first is still my favorite.

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Originally Posted by ColdCase1984
Who made those AR .358 barrels?

I have a Smith in SC that makes them for me. I drop ship the blank (GM) and the extension (Lilja), email him specs. Get the barrel back in about a week. $125 plus shipping to me. PM me if you need more details.

In some cases he already has the reamer... in the case of .358W I had 4D drop ship him the reamer (rental was $33). I already had Go No-Go .308 gauges.

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I have an old style Remington 760 that was rechambered to .358. Shoots well for now having only played with Hornady factory ammo. I think I'm going to head down the Model 7 route with a 16" barrel. Love the .35's. Have 2 Whelens, my 760 358 and a Remington 141 .35 remington. All kill PA and NY deer well


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