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Yep, a 3-9 or 2.5-8 scope will do nicely for The big woods and thick hellhole hunting where I spend My Whitetail hunting time, but if I get the notion I want to shoot deer @600yds (which I never will) im going to want more scope...I'd probly mount a 4.5-14 on a long range rig but long range in the places I hunt is 100yds....lol..........Hb

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alternative thread titles:

"Why do folks these days feel the need to twist
and fiddle with a rifle scope before a shot?"

or

"How did north american game animals get so hard to
see and so much harder to kill with a moderate
rifle cartridge?"

just a couple. . .

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maybe one other:

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Most of the time a 3x or 4x would work fine for me.


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I know I'm not the only one that remembers when a VXII 3x9 was the holy grail. At least for Virginia boys...

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Originally Posted by 16bore
I know I'm not the only one that remembers when a VXII 3x9 was the holy grail. At least for Virginia boys...

mississippi boys too ...


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I run about 15 or so hunting rifles consistently, and all have either 4X or 6X scopes, with 1 exception...and that is a 10X on a 22 k-hornet which is mainly a play rifle with some varmint/predator forays.

My lone variable is a 1.5x-4x leupold on a .450 Marlin, but haven't fired it in several years...and plan to put either a 2.5x or 4x on it when I feel like shooting that heavy boomer again.



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Originally Posted by kingston
Regarding your fixed 4x Swarovski, how's the eye relief? What model is it and could you post a picture of or mounted on your Kimber? ...

Pictures below. Eye relief, with that scope, on that rifle, with the Talley Ex-Lows, just right for me. Close my eyes, mount the rifle, open my eyes, and I have a clear sight picture surrounded by solid black circle. It is a .270. So, not concerned about getting "scope bit". I did chamfer the front scope base to be able to slide the scope a little further to the rear. Titanium bolt knob already had a small scallop to clear the ocular bell on a Leupold 6x. Was sufficient for the Swarovski in the Ex-Lows as well. 6.00 lbs as shown.

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... This, plus where can I get one? ...

I lucked into this scope, used. Either here on the 'Fire, or AR, or eBay. Can't remember. Can't seem to find them commercially NIB. Casually keeping my eyes open for another one, either 4x or 6x with German #4. ... A Left Hand version of this rifle would be a "forever" rifle for me.

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Thanks for the pics. That's a sweet little setup!


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I have a lot of 2-7x and 4-12x scopes in service.

Weight wise, the Leupold VX-2 2-7x33, 3-9x40, and 4-12x40 scopes are all within 2 ounces of each other, from 9.9, 11.2, and 11.6 ounces.

I've shot a lot of pdogs with rifles topped with 4-12x40 scope with and without an AO.

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Originally Posted by Sheister

Same thing with my big game rifles. I usually hunt with a 2.5 x 10 B&L or 3.5 x 10 Leupy's, but will move up a bit this year with a 4.5 x 14. Many times the game likes to hide or walk though brush or trees. Being able to see an opening big enough to shoot through when game is feeding through can make a difference between having a shot and not. Not everyone gets broadside 250 yard shots at game or unobstructed targets every time. Have to make the best of what is offered.
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I'm similar but a little different. All mine are 4-12, except one 3-9.

Higher mag to me isn't about seeing or hitting a deer. The higher magnification allows more PRECISE bullet placement.

IF, WHEN you hunt with antler point restrictions -- higher mag makes seeing number of points easier/accurately at longer distances.

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Straight 4 power or a good 1.5 x 4...

I hunt predominantly 30/30 ranges...

2 x 7 if needing a variable..


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IF, WHEN you hunt with antler point restrictions -- higher mag makes seeing number of points easier/accurately at longer distances.


Here also. I know they will start with the binocular rant soon, and I carry binoculars, but most times you do not have time to change back and forth. I know that it is a deer, so no danger as to target, just need to count points. I can analyze the rest at the same time. miles


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Originally Posted by 16bore
I know I'm not the only one that remembers when a VXII 3x9 was the holy grail. At least for Virginia boys...


I remember well, I had one too. A 9-10 power 40mm has always worked for me. I used a VX2 forever and then went to a vx3 3.5x10x40 when they came out and have been using it every since.
I've also always preferred a 40mm over a 50mm.


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I've also always preferred a 40mm over a 50mm.


Got a 50mm back before cataract surgery, and it helped. Still use it and have no problem with the size. I was gifted a Ziess a while back, a 6.5-20X50 that I am going to give a try. It has knobs sticking out all over and will give most here a fit just thinking about, but I figure that I can kill a deer with it. grin miles


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Currently, my favorite scope is the SWFA 10x42 SS. I hunt from elevated stands with solid rests, over big agricultural fields. I have a couple of rifles with 4-16 Vipers, 3-9 Conquests that work just fine.


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Originally Posted by Blacktailer
There's all kinds of hunting and all kinds of hunters. Some folks seem to think that the more X's on their scope the better and some like to snipe away at animals in the next county. My personal comfort zone is not much over 300 yards so 9-10 power on the top end is more than enough.


I don't need a bunch of hashmarks and I am very comfortable with a plex scope in a Leupold 3.5-10x40 scope on most of my deer rifles. I will probably never again shoot any game animal at over 300 yards.

We have antler restrictions here in PA and my 67 year of eyes need a little help these days.

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For me, magnification is not nearly as important as the mechanics and reticle. To 600, a 6x would do, but my aging eyes prefer more. I use a 10x and 3-12 now, but I could definitely make do with a 6x and the right turret/reticle combination.

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My scopes range from fixed 2x to variables with a 14x upper limit.

They all work.


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A 3x9 would be on the upper end of what you will ever need for hunting the vast majority of what we hunt.
Truthfully 95% of your shots are under 200 yards, most hunting cartridges shot relatively flat out to 300 yards. You don't need dots, you don't need to spin turrets, at the closer ranges game wont put up with much fiddling.........I like my true hunting scopes to be like my pocket camera...point and shoot.


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Originally Posted by bangeye
CJ I too generally have my variables on their lowest setting . The beauty of variables is for load development and I'll admit to cranking mine to the top power when at the bench. I often joke I don't need a 3 to 9 variable but instead a 3 or 9 variable with a simple switch lever instead of an adjustment ring. Orion that's a pretty sweet zeiss.


This makes a lot of sense.

That said, the next scope I get for a deer rifle will probably be a fixed six, which should cover both bases pretty well and look good and carry easy to boot.


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