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Ok have Hornady 147 Gr bullets need some loads that work please, not a lot of info. Thanks Kurt
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43 gr Reloder 17 in Hornady brass with CCI 200's in a friends Ruger Precision is shooting really, really small groups with low es and sd. Think I'd find some Lapua or Alpha and work up.
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Just shot my LH 24" Ruger FTW Hawkeye 6.5 CM with Hornady 147 GR ELD M. CCI 200 Primer Hornady Brass.
Test loads loaded 4 rounds each charge 1 shot each load through barrel chrono.
Wait for data and don,t try my loads without working up please.
43 GR IMR 4831 2664 FPS 3 @ 1.24"
41.5 H 4350 2549 FPS shows pressure 3 @ 1.28"
41.5 GR RL 17 2624 FPS 3 @ .58"
42 GR RL 17 2674 FPS 3 @ .75"
42.5 GR RL 17 2706 FPS 3 @ 2.2" Horiz spread 1 case sticky
43 GR RL 17 2756 FPS 3 @ 1.3 " 1 sticky case
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Your pressure signs are validated by Hornady's max loads. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/6_5-Creed-147gr.jpg)
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CCI 200, Hornady Case,Hornady 147 GR ELD M, 46 GR RL 26, 2686 FPS, 4 @ 1.2" 3 @ .565 " reshoot flyer or pulled
Best so far no pressure signs.
Loaded more at diff seat depths.
Loaded RL 26 higher but accuracy fell off.
Thinking Ram Shot hunter would be a good fit.
Any one with Quick Load willing to run loads with RS Hunter and RL 26 with 147 GR ELD M ? Thanks
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Shooting a Ruger FTW Hunter in 6.5 CM 24" barrel.
Hornady 147 ELD-M..........COAL... 2.85
Starline Palma brass..........................................(I can't praise this new Starline 6.5 CM Palma brass enough! Great stuff!!)
Rem Small Bench Rest Primer
RL-23 45.0 grains
This load is shooting .3s and .4's consistently, everyday. Some groups are one ragged hole.
ES and SD are great.
Velocities with graph set at 10' distance.
2,737
2,726
2,732
I tried KK Alaska's load with RL 26. Speeds were in the 2,680's and consistent.
Accuracy was good, but not as good as RL-23.
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Cartridge : 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady
Bullet : .264, 147, Hornady ELD-M 26333
Useable Case Capaci: 46.246 grain H2O = 3.003 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63205 psi, or 435 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
167 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 48.1 3.12 2822 100.0 60225 12068 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 103.3 46.9 3.04 2811 99.9 63205 11822 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 97.0 43.4 2.81 2795 100.0 63205 10810 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 96.0 42.9 2.78 2774 100.0 63205 10736 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 96.0 42.9 2.78 2774 100.0 63205 10736 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 105.0 46.7 3.03 2773 99.3 58972 12084 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 99.4 44.4 2.88 2752 100.0 63205 10846 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 101.5 44.7 2.90 2752 99.8 63205 11143 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 102.6 42.6 2.76 2751 100.0 63205 10589 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 104.6 44.4 2.87 2749 98.7 63205 11288 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 97.5 44.3 2.87 2749 99.9 63205 11065 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 100.7 44.3 2.87 2748 99.9 63205 11049 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 95.1 42.9 2.78 2743 99.6 63205 11056 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 95.1 42.9 2.78 2743 99.6 63205 11056 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 102.7 43.6 2.82 2742 100.0 63205 10246 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 44.8 2.90 2742 98.7 62627 11350 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 46.0 2.98 2738 97.1 59177 11796 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 97.4 42.4 2.75 2727 100.0 63205 10694 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 100.3 42.3 2.74 2727 100.0 63205 10553 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 100.3 42.3 2.74 2727 100.0 63205 10550 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 103.0 43.9 2.85 2724 98.5 63205 11051 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 99.8 43.9 2.85 2724 98.5 63205 11051 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 103.0 43.9 2.85 2724 98.5 63205 11051 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 99.5 42.4 2.75 2723 100.0 63205 10514 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 44.8 2.90 2716 98.5 61148 11206 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 45.7 2.96 2711 96.1 55961 12035 1.194 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 105.0 42.9 2.78 2706 100.0 62807 10315 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 93.7 41.2 2.67 2705 100.0 63205 10145 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.6 43.5 2.82 2704 99.5 63205 10669 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 103.6 46.6 3.02 2704 98.6 63205 10780 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 105.0 45.2 2.93 2703 99.2 62156 10844 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 105.0 45.2 2.93 2699 96.6 57575 11583 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 90.7 41.2 2.67 2699 100.0 63205 10037 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52 91.1 40.1 2.60 2694 100.0 63205 9866 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 103.8 43.6 2.83 2694 97.7 63205 10743 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 90.3 38.5 2.49 2692 100.0 63205 10032 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 99.8 42.1 2.73 2689 99.7 63205 10481 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.9 42.4 2.75 2688 100.0 63205 9707 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 45.2 2.93 2688 97.8 55413 11645 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 45.2 2.93 2688 97.8 55413 11645 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 105.0 45.2 2.93 2688 97.8 55413 11645 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 102.5 42.7 2.77 2687 99.3 63205 10450 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 47.6 3.08 2687 94.2 54924 12007 1.209
IMR 4350 100.6 42.7 2.76 2687 99.3 63205 10429 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 91.1 38.8 2.52 2686 100.0 63205 10003 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 91.1 38.8 2.52 2686 100.0 63205 10003 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 91.1 38.8 2.52 2686 100.0 63205 10003 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 45.2 2.93 2684 96.5 60442 11023 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 92.5 40.3 2.61 2683 100.0 63205 10166 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 91.6 39.0 2.53 2683 100.0 63205 9925 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 94.5 40.6 2.63 2679 99.7 63205 10146 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 92.8 40.0 2.59 2673 100.0 63205 9776 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 92.8 40.0 2.59 2673 100.0 63205 9776 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50 92.4 41.0 2.66 2671 99.8 63205 10161 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 93.1 39.1 2.53 2670 100.0 63205 9648 1.147 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 48.8 3.16 2670 98.3 55571 11224 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 94.9 40.0 2.59 2668 100.0 63205 9691 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 92.1 40.5 2.63 2668 100.0 63205 9900 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4451 Enduron 96.1 40.5 2.62 2668 99.5 63205 10225 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 97.4 40.7 2.64 2667 99.3 63205 10286 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 97.4 40.7 2.64 2667 99.3 63205 10286 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 98.6 41.1 2.66 2666 100.0 63205 10082 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 94.3 40.8 2.64 2666 99.3 63205 10279 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 102.6 46.6 3.02 2665 96.9 63205 10530 1.155 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 95.1 39.6 2.57 2664 100.0 63205 9707 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 96.1 40.7 2.64 2658 99.9 63205 9879 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 93.7 38.8 2.51 2655 100.0 63205 9669 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 94.0 38.8 2.51 2655 100.0 63205 9669 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 94.5 38.1 2.47 2646 100.0 63205 9466 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4166 Enduron 95.3 38.9 2.52 2644 99.6 63205 9880 1.152 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062 92.2 38.2 2.48 2638 100.0 63205 9317 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 90.4 36.0 2.33 2633 100.0 63205 8954 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 92.3 38.5 2.50 2630 100.0 63205 9150 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron 105.0 43.5 2.82 2625 96.4 58742 10569 1.183 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 100.2 40.3 2.61 2625 100.0 63205 9143 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 91.1 37.5 2.43 2622 100.0 63205 9157 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 94.4 42.0 2.72 2622 99.2 63205 9704 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 91.0 39.2 2.54 2621 100.0 63205 9155 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 105.0 44.4 2.88 2620 95.4 53502 11118 1.227
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 47.8 3.10 2614 95.6 50367 11601 1.246
Winchester WXR 105.0 44.3 2.87 2611 96.7 50641 11374 1.256
Bofors RP15 105.0 44.3 2.87 2611 96.7 50641 11374 1.256
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 43.8 2.84 2609 100.0 50518 10586 1.259
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 47.8 3.10 2609 95.3 50080 11595 1.249
Accurate 3100 105.0 44.8 2.90 2606 99.4 55263 10402 1.242
Vihtavuori N140 90.8 37.9 2.46 2591 100.0 63205 8643 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 96.4 37.2 2.41 2580 100.0 63205 8419 1.181 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 43.5 2.82 2572 94.8 52758 10603 1.233
IMR 7828 105.0 43.5 2.82 2572 94.5 48823 11173 1.266
ADI AP 2214 105.0 46.5 3.01 2565 94.7 49942 11041 1.252
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 45.6 2.96 2565 92.5 51411 10905 1.242
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 44.5 2.88 2556 98.8 45561 11211 1.307
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 44.3 2.87 2549 97.5 52042 10181 1.252
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 42.9 2.78 2537 95.7 53090 10056 1.241
Vihtavuori N133 90.7 35.4 2.29 2529 100.0 63205 7919 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 105.0 44.8 2.90 2464 92.8 41083 11159 1.380
Norma MRP 2 105.0 44.8 2.90 2464 92.8 41083 11159 1.380
Lovex S071 105.0 42.3 2.74 2454 98.0 45474 9990 1.360
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Powder Type................Grains..........................Velocity............................psi
Alliant Reloder-26 .........48.1............................2,822.............................60,225
Alliant Reloder-25 .........44.5............................2,566.............................45,561
Alliant Reloder-23 .........43.8............................2,609.............................50,518
Alliant Reloder-22 .........45.2............................2,688.............................55,414
Alliant Reloder-19..........44.8............................2,742.............................62,627
Alliant Reloder-17 .........42.1............................2,774.............................63,205
Alliant Reloder-16..........42.6............................2,751.............................63,205
Alliant Reloder-15..........38.8............................2,686.............................63,205
IF true, or even close, that is a lot of speed for the 147.0 with 26, but I also like the psi with 23.
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I just ran mine through the chronograph 143 grain ELD-X, 47 grains of RL 26, CCI 200 primer hornady brass, Remington 700 long action, 27 inch Brux barrel. Velocity was 2930 FPS 10 feet from chronograph, 50 yard groups were very promising.
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Creedmoor RL26 update, I went out and shot a few today, it's a one ragged hole shooter. I think I'm hooked.
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Fotis, Thank you, that's very helpful. I am trying to find a starting point for my 6.5CM and the new ELD-M 147GN. bullets. I was going to splash out on Quickload but I found that it won't run on my Mac or my Win XP systems. Could I impose upon you to run a QL for a 24 inch (M24 profile) barrel, H4350 powder (with S&B sr primers) Lapua Brass (capacity 46.3 H2O?) and ELD-M 147gn. bullet? I would like to start loading around a barrel time and pressure without burning (pun intended) through my powder to find a velocity node or OCW.
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RL 26 46.1 grains, Starline Palma brass ![[Linked Image]](https://s7.postimg.cc/ckt5tyj7f/20180420_150525_7847_turret_6.5_8004_6.5_CM_turret.jpg)
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I like 46 grains of re 26 in mine. It clocks 2745 and is sub 1/2 minute accuracy.
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Lapua brass, cci BR4 primer, 45.6 RL26, 147 eldm. 2,900fps in a 28” barrel. No signs of pressure, very consistent and accurate in my rifle.
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48.0 gr RL 26, 147 Eld-m, Fed match LRP, starline brass, getting consistent 2800 from 20” barrel, fantastic accuracy.
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I got this from Hodgdon. It doesn't have the RL's but a good assortment of powders from their line:
Cartridge: 6.5 Creedmoor
Load Type: Rifle
Starting Loads
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Bullet Weight (Gr.) Order BW Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
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147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 Suprform .264" 2.800" 39.7 2456 48,100 PSI 45.2 2746 61,100 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 H4831 .264" 2.800" 40.4 2432 47,700 PSI 46.0C 2695 61,400 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 Hybrid 100V .264" 2.800" 38.2 2480 46,600 PSI 43.0 2741 59,800 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 H4350 .264" 2.800" 36.7 2389 44,700 PSI 41.8 2680 60,800 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 H380 .264" 2.800" 36.6 2396 48,400 PSI 40.7 2635 61,400 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 IMR 4955 .264" 2.800" 40.1 2383 48,300 PSI 44.6C 2615 60,400 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 IMR 4831 .264" 2.800" 38.9 2394 45,300 PSI 44.3C 2705 60,700 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 IMR 4451 .264" 2.800" 37.1 2367 45,300 PSI 42.2 2680 61,500 PSI
147 GR. HDY ELD-M 147 IMR 4350 .264" 2.800" 37.3 2385 44,300 PSI 42.4 2697 60,500 PSI
I think I will run a ladder test of some sort with the H4350 at a grain or two over max @ 200yd. Maybe track the POI and chronograph at the same time depending on how busy the range is.
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Hi guys, I'm new here but I've been shooting 6.5cm a couple of yrs now. Have a Ruger rpr with a Proof Research SS 24'' barrel, and a rifle I built with rem action and Criterion 26'' remage barrel. Best loads I've come up with are 42.0 rl 16 for the rpr and 41.8 for the other rifle. Both will shoot half moa easily. We (my son &I) mainly shoot steel out to 1000 yds. The 147 eldm has worked better for us than anything else. Used rl 17 before trying rl16 had good results but is very temp sensitive. Can hardly ever find h4350 so I haven't spent time working with it. I know it's good but I don't see it being better than what I've been using.I don't spend much time playing with seating depth as I just load as long as I can to get them to work in the magazine. That's one thing I love about the 6.5cm is that it's so easy to load for, especially the rpr it will shoot just about anything well.
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Lapua brass CCI 450 primer, 42 grains of reloader 16, velocity is 2670 fps
Tikka T3 CTR 24 inch barrel, very accurate under half moa also very temperature stable!
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