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Originally Posted by pacecars
If Sig will make a non-railed version in a Commander Nightmare carry I will be all over it and think they will sell a boatload of them



Agreed 1000% on the no rail deal Pacecars, were that the case I may have bought the Sig instead, 'Smith did get the DW to me for 1350 cash, plus he doesn't charge me that BS transfer fee.


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After I sold my Delta but was convinced I needed another 10mm for some reason this was on the list.

https://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-elite-stock-i-99

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Or maybe a little heavier but with a single action trigger.

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I got over it just in time.


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Have heard those EAA's shoot really nice, I wont get over my 10mm bug, had it for a damn long spell, 'Smith drug out about a dozen 1911's he's checkered the front straps on, IIRC the nicest job featured 32 LPI, really nice, I'll work up a good 200 gr load and see where the sights hit, that will allow me to order the correct front sight height if needed when switching to night sights.

This DW is a very good feeling pistol, very tight.


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WOW!!!!! this DW Razorback is a fine shooting weapon, 8.4 grs Longshot sent the 200 gr Noslers to 10 shot av of 1244 fps in Starline cases with WLP primers, NO smileys even at the shot string high of 1269 fps, load shoots to the sights perfect, dead on poa at 20 yards.

COL at 1.260" functioned perfect in the mags, what a fun 50 shot warmup string it was! I slammed one of the rounds into a 5 gal bucket of water length ways at 15', I got wet but the jacket held to the core, would probably make a fine hog/deer bullet, have most of the last 250 round box of these 200 gr Noslers left, will compare the 200 gr XTP's later when these are gone.


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Dayam! Sounds good, gunner.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
WOW!!!!! this DW Razorback is a fine shooting weapon, 8.4 grs Longshot sent the 200 gr Noslers to 10 shot av of 1244 fps in Starline cases with WLP primers, NO smileys even at the shot string high of 1269 fps, load shoots to the sights perfect, dead on poa at 20 yards.

COL at 1.260" functioned perfect in the mags, what a fun 50 shot warmup string it was! I slammed one of the rounds into a 5 gal bucket of water length ways at 15', I got wet but the jacket held to the core, would probably make a fine hog/deer bullet, have most of the last 250 round box of these 200 gr Noslers left, will compare the 200 gr XTP's later when these are gone.


Sounds like a good load. I missed it earlier, standard 5" barrel or longslide? I'm guessing 5"; I use a 200gr cast hollow point load that runs right about the same from the 5" P-16 I had or the stock G20 barrel I have now. The 6.5" longslide bumps it to ~1325 fps but tames it in the hand as well.

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I had my RIA go down last week. It hung slightly out of battery and beat the chit out of the lugs. I sent it in last Wednesday and it came back today. They replaced the entire top end and let me say the fit on it now is sweet. It was always a decent shooter, but the test target measures. .625" OUTSIDE TO OUTSIDE. They did a very nice job on the rebuild. I'm tickled with their cs.


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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by gunner500
WOW!!!!! this DW Razorback is a fine shooting weapon, 8.4 grs Longshot sent the 200 gr Noslers to 10 shot av of 1244 fps in Starline cases with WLP primers, NO smileys even at the shot string high of 1269 fps, load shoots to the sights perfect, dead on poa at 20 yards.

COL at 1.260" functioned perfect in the mags, what a fun 50 shot warmup string it was! I slammed one of the rounds into a 5 gal bucket of water length ways at 15', I got wet but the jacket held to the core, would probably make a fine hog/deer bullet, have most of the last 250 round box of these 200 gr Noslers left, will compare the 200 gr XTP's later when these are gone.


Gunner, the go to Powder for max 10 mm loads is AA-9. Max loads with it are also the most accurate with all the different bullets I load for all of my 10mm's. Congrats on your new pistole!


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Dayam! Sounds good, gunner.



Thanks LD, she's a cool running Cadillac!

Yondering, Yes, 5" barrel, 1325 with 200's is smoking, sounds like a very serious load with the 6.5" barrel, I thought about some 200/220 hardcasts for later on.

HC, glad you got your RIA back up and running, good to hear about the excellent CS as well.

Dang CHLI, I thought I was at max power grin, what vels are you getting with AA#9 with 200's, I don't want to hammer on this 1911 too much, I never felt/heard the smack of steel on steel [no buffer] while firing my loads at 1244.

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gunner, these may come in handy with stout loads.

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Shok-Buff-Recoil-Buffers-1911-Package-of-6/productinfo/2B/

You can pick them on amazon or ebay for same price or less, and with free shipping.


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WOW!!!!! this DW Razorback is a fine shooting weapon, 8.4 grs Longshot sent the 200 gr Noslers to 10 shot av of 1244 fps in Starline cases with WLP primers, NO smileys even at the shot string high of 1269 fps, load shoots to the sights perfect, dead on poa at 20 yards.

COL at 1.260" functioned perfect in the mags, what a fun 50 shot warmup string it was! I slammed one of the rounds into a 5 gal bucket of water length ways at 15', I got wet but the jacket held to the core, would probably make a fine hog/deer bullet, have most of the last 250 round box of these 200 gr Noslers left, will compare the 200 gr XTP's later when these are gone.


Gunner, the go to Powder for max 10 mm loads is AA-9. Max loads with it are also the most accurate with all the different bullets I load for all of my 10mm's. Congrats on your new pistole!


Longshot is right up there with AA9 for top 10mm loads. AA9 uses more powder, so I think it's more effective for guns with a brake, but otherwise it's user preference.

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I'd wan't whatever Ten I purchased to shoot 40 as well. I'm not a big Glock guy, but the G20 and G29 do that as well as any and they are certainly well-proven.


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Gunner, I'm getting 1300 fps with 200 XTP HP and a max load of AA-9. It's also the most accurate powder in all my 10mm's. I'll have to give Longshot a try also. I've never tried it in anything.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
gunner, these may come in handy with stout loads.

http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Shok-Buff-Recoil-Buffers-1911-Package-of-6/productinfo/2B/

You can pick them on amazon or ebay for same price or less, and with free shipping.


Thanks LD, do these buffers inhibit reliability any at all? I'll use this 10mm for a carry gun at times.


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Originally Posted by viking
Smith should make the 610 again.


610, Revolver or Semi?


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Originally Posted by Yondering
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Originally Posted by gunner500
WOW!!!!! this DW Razorback is a fine shooting weapon, 8.4 grs Longshot sent the 200 gr Noslers to 10 shot av of 1244 fps in Starline cases with WLP primers, NO smileys even at the shot string high of 1269 fps, load shoots to the sights perfect, dead on poa at 20 yards.

COL at 1.260" functioned perfect in the mags, what a fun 50 shot warmup string it was! I slammed one of the rounds into a 5 gal bucket of water length ways at 15', I got wet but the jacket held to the core, would probably make a fine hog/deer bullet, have most of the last 250 round box of these 200 gr Noslers left, will compare the 200 gr XTP's later when these are gone.


Gunner, the go to Powder for max 10 mm loads is AA-9. Max loads with it are also the most accurate with all the different bullets I load for all of my 10mm's. Congrats on your new pistole!


Longshot is right up there with AA9 for top 10mm loads. AA9 uses more powder, so I think it's more effective for guns with a brake, but otherwise it's user preference.



That's what I thought too Yondering, I have around 5lbs of Longshot, and with the accuracy it gives in my gun, I best sit pat.


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10-4 Sarge, I have plenty of 40 loaded up, may give it a whirl and see

Damn CHLI, that's smoking, I wanted to safely approach max loads with this new 10mm, went to Midway and checked out the velocities on their full power 10mm ammunition for sale, guess I'm inline with Underwoods stated velocities, although I have heard their ammo can run a little faster than they say it should run.

At 1244 fps with Longshot I have no firing pin swipes on the primers, no smileys and brass lands in a nice pile about 8' right and a bit back, and for me not being a pistola hand, nice ragged 2" holes at 20 yards is a keeper for me, I can't shoot any better than that, BTW, not one single flyer in todays two mag [16 rounds] 20 yard braced target shoot, I'm sure liking this pistol, I have some 10 round Tripp mags on the way. smile


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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

610 Revolver



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