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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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No more plastika for me at least with handguns. 1911 or Revolver.
Why not?


nothing to do with function at all, it is just a personal thing. In my mind they are disposable


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Only autos I own are S&Ws made between 1964-2000, and not one has plastic in it. Being 56 years old, plastic way back when had a bad connotation to it; like when they started making dashboards out of plastic for autos. YUCK! I guess that has been with me forever and I cannot abide a plastic handgun, for me it says "disposable" when it cracks in an odd place.


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I have a Shield .40 and a Glock 23 . No flies on either one but I still prefer old school stuff. Going to buy another 1911 on Sunday.

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No more plastika for me at least with handguns. 1911 or Revolver.
Why not?


nothing to do with function at all, it is just a personal thing. In my mind they are disposable


^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS x 1,000^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only autos I own are S&Ws made between 1964-2000, and not one has plastic in it. Being 56 years old, plastic way back when had a bad connotation to it; like when they started making dashboards out of plastic for autos. YUCK! I guess that has been with me forever and I cannot abide a plastic handgun, for me it says "disposable" when it cracks in an odd place.


I view "plastic" guns similarly, but for a different reason. To my mind, and eye, polymer pistols have no "soul." Their history is not the history of fine hand-work, the work of men long-trained and expert in arms manufacturing, but instead is a story of the triumph of materials science and lean-manufacturing. Good things to be sure, but not fine things.

Polymer guns make wonderful tools--and I own several, and regard them as tools the way I regard a particularly efficient dishwasher or garage door opener--but they do not move me in the slightest. I have no sentiment for them, the way I feel when I see a S&W Registered Magnum or a Colt Shooting Master. Some say there is no place for sentiment in the firearms world. I feel sorry for those people.

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Yep, my last one was a S&W Model 53..

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Finally got to lay my hands on the new Ruger GP100 in .44 special today and really liked it!

And yes, I'll be adding one to my arsenal soon! grin

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I was in Bass Pro tonight in Round Rock. They had very very few revolvers compared to autos, sad.

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My carry gun is the Ruger LCR in .357. When hunting it's the Ruger 4" in .44. I would have to say the younger generation is going with the autos. I base this on my boy and his friends, They are all ex-military so that might have something to do with it.
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My carry gun is the Ruger LCR in .357. When hunting it's the Ruger 4" in .44. I would have to say the younger generation is going with the autos. I base this on my boy and his friends, They are all ex-military so that might have something to do with it.
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I somewhat agree with the those Revolver Lovers. The thought of owning an old well-made six shooter is more appealing to a lot of handgun owner's, myself included. That being said, I only own one and it's a .22 WMR that I use for rodent control around the house. It's fun to shoot with .22 shotshells and it does the job on Chipmunks and squirrels. That is the only Revolver I own because my other handguns are for personal protection and I want a tool that's meant for the job. I like the fact that I can pull the trigger 13 times without reloading. Gives me a little more sense of security plastic or not, than facing three robber's breaking in my house with a six-shooter. But as I said, I don't see anything wrong with being enamored with a revolver.


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Speaking of Plastic. Has anyone had a Composite-Frame pistol break on you? I have several and I put hundreds of rounds through them without any sign of structural damage. Maybe a scratch or two, but nothing substantial.


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Speaking of Plastic. Has anyone had a Composite-Frame pistol break on you? I have several and I put hundreds of rounds through them without any sign of structural damage. Maybe a scratch or two, but nothing substantial.


I have never seen one break.

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I was in Bass Pro tonight in Round Rock. They had very very few revolvers compared to autos, sad.
A popular gun store near me has only one small side counter with revolvers in it. The main counter, five times longer, is filled with autos of various makes and models.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
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Speaking of Plastic. Has anyone had a Composite-Frame pistol break on you? I have several and I put hundreds of rounds through them without any sign of structural damage. Maybe a scratch or two, but nothing substantial.


I have never seen one break.
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Watch4bear: I am still buying revolvers (along with a few select semi-autos).
But I am concentrating on "investment" revolvers as opposed to revolvers I intend to shoot (I have enough "shootable" revolvers to last three lifetimes!).
I have been amazed over the last several years as to the appreciation in value of both Colt and Smith & Wesson (not the recent "trigger lock models"!) revolvers!
Albeit the "market" of recent in new semi-auto offerings has most of the market at retail outlets - the "older" revolvers made by Smith & Wesson and Colt are now a better "investment"!
So at this time that's my main interest.
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Originally Posted by Oregon45



I view "plastic" guns similarly, but for a different reason. To my mind, and eye, polymer pistols have no "soul." Their history is not the history of fine hand-work, the work of men long-trained and expert in arms manufacturing, but instead is a story of the triumph of materials science and lean-manufacturing. Good things to be sure, but not fine things.

Polymer guns make wonderful tools--and I own several, and regard them as tools the way I regard a particularly efficient dishwasher or garage door opener--but they do not move me in the slightest. I have no sentiment for them, the way I feel when I see a S&W Registered Magnum or a Colt Shooting Master. Some say there is no place for sentiment in the firearms world. I feel sorry for those people.

You covered my thoughts on the matter better than I would have said it myself.
My revolver to pistol ratio is 5:1 and I don't own any polymer handguns.


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
I have been amazed over the last several years as to the appreciation in value of both Colt and Smith & Wesson (not the recent "trigger lock models"!) revolvers!


Yep! Been buying up Pre-Lock, Pre-MIM, Pinned Barreled Smith & Wessons. Most of my collection consists of Model 19's (one of the finest revolvers made), but I also have a soft spot for the Model 25-5 in .45 Colt. My most recent acquisition (which has yet to arrive) is a 5 screw K-38 Masterpiece made in 1954, which will be put to good use shooting wadcutters.

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S&W K22 & K38, both 1947 vintage:

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Would like to have one of those some day. They are just so darn expensive when I find them here.


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USSR1991: I had to finally look up (Google!) what "MIM" means.

Definitions: Acronym Definition; MIM: Metal Injection Molding: MIM: Mendelian Inheritance in Man: MIM: Man in the Middle: MIM: Multilateral Initiative on Malaria: MIM: Metal ...

I am assuming that the "MIM" you refer to in your post ("Pre-MIM Smith's) has something to do with the Google optional definition "Metal Injection Molding"?
How do I tell which type parts are in prospective Smith & Wesson revolvers I may come across?
Is there a date of manufacture cut/off or start up for me to look for?
Congratulations on the latest acquisition of the K-38 Masterpiece!
I remember as a young policeman trying for 5 years to get to "Expert" class in my departments quarterly qualifications thus allowing me to "trade up" from a Smith & Wesson Model 10 to a Smith & Wesson Model 14 (K-38 Target Masterpiece) there in the early 1970's.
I foolishly turned that fine pistol back in to the department for a Smith & Wesson Model 66 several years later!
I am guessing I put at least 10,000 rounds of quality wadcutter ammunition through that K-38 in quarterly qualifications, practice and some Varmint and Grouse Hunting.
Fine pistol it was - enjoy yours.
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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
USSR1991: I had to finally look up (Google!) what "MIM" means.

Definitions: Acronym Definition; MIM: Metal Injection Molding: MIM: Mendelian Inheritance in Man: MIM: Man in the Middle: MIM: Multilateral Initiative on Malaria: MIM: Metal ...

I am assuming that the "MIM" you refer to in your post ("Pre-MIM Smith's) has something to do with the Google optional definition "Metal Injection Molding"?
How do I tell which type parts are in prospective Smith & Wesson revolvers I may come across?
Is there a date of manufacture cut/off or start up for me to look for?
Congratulations on the latest acquisition of the K-38 Masterpiece!
I remember as a young policeman trying for 5 years to get to "Expert" class in my departments quarterly qualifications thus allowing me to "trade up" from a Smith & Wesson Model 10 to a Smith & Wesson Model 14 (K-38 Target Masterpiece) there in the early 1970's.
I foolishly turned that fine pistol back in to the department for a Smith & Wesson Model 66 several years later!
I am guessing I put at least 10,000 rounds of quality wadcutter ammunition through that K-38 in quarterly qualifications, practice and some Varmint and Grouse Hunting.
Fine pistol it was - enjoy yours.
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Some time in the 1990s they switched to MIM for the trigger, sear, hammer. They have a very different look. One key to tell with blued guns is that pre-MIM parts were color case hardened. Easy to tell with stainless, too, but I don't know how to convey it to you in writing.

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