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Wow! What a gorgeous gun!

Gorgeous is not the first word that comes to my mind.

Interesting, perhaps,

I thought the same when the stainless & gray laminate guns came out, WTH are they thinking. Now they are collectible.

I guess if your state rules were favorable, you wanted a very compact weather resistant rifle, it could be a good deal for someone. Maybe they already have a .450 AR, and don't need new dies & components.

The stainless/laminated aspect doesn't bother me, it's that fu^cking muzzlebrake and no sights that turns my stomach.

No sights is the killer

What? No link? (Grumble) I'll go take a peek.....

Here is a link for other folks.
http://www.ruger.com/products/americanRifleRanch/specSheets/16950.html

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The Ruger no.1 stainless!

Check out what I found on GunBroker.com! http://www.gunbroker.com/item/641517536

I looked at one today, I think they are Butt Ugly, but the other 6 No!s were blued and wood, NO fig in the stocks at all!

I think if the ROCS Displayers would have an award for the Ugliest Ruger of all time one of these should win top honors.

Its an absolute disgrace to the beautiful rifle designed by William B Ruger, he is probably rolling in his grave after looking down on this bastardization.

What a shame. What are the folks at Ruger thinking? It's bad enough that they put wood on the current No. 1's that have less figure than a Home Depot 2x4 but this takes ugly to a new level. It's FUGLY.

Does that stock really have a brand on it that says "use no hooks"? Labman--you are right. I have seen prettier wood in the pallet pile. The other thing that turns me off is .450 Bushmaster. Crap, It just uses pistol bullets.

Could this barrel be rebored to .458? Rechamber to 45/70

Heck, I like it. I don't have any need for a muzzle brake, but otherwise I think it's pretty sweet.

Hmmmm... .450 BM .... 'nuff said.

I have three 458 win mags two 44/70's all 1h's. But this 450bm has for some reason tweaked my interest.

was at my gun shop today, they had 2 of the stainless 450s in for $1499.00 and a Ruger Scout in 450B for 1099.00,if anyone wants to know more pm me and ill tell ya where!

I wonder how they are threaded. One could machine a barrel extension and at least have the correct length and no silly brake

A can for one is only $1500.

This combination of features is idiotic. I am surprised to see Lipsey miss the mark like this.

The brake is a hearing liability. There better be a darn good reason for one. Maybe this is more a cosmetic (rambo theme) flash hider and not a ear busting brake. Well, it looks like a honest ear busting brake to me.

The American 450 is a handy 5.5 pound rifle. That is practical deer rifle in special permit states that allow the 450. The brake might help those very recoil sensitive shooters. The 450 is not much of a heavy hitter. I would just guess, it makes a superb deer load and the American should be a fine performer in that role.

The No1 is a whopping 7.5 pounds. Just plain stupid/ignorant beyond belief. What use it this war club and why in the world does it need a brake? it need a light synthetic stock and a thin barrel with a brake OR as a heavy rifle, nice stock and plain barrel. Definitely, a future collectable. That is a purly useless low volume gun that only has appeal to the future collector.

This is NOT a Lipsey's offering; it is from Ruger!

All No1 are a collaboration between Lipsey and Ruger. No caps or ! needed. Look at the ruger website and all 7 models listed are shown as Lipsey exclusive. Does it matter?

The American 450 threads, quote: "Compact threaded barrel (11/16"-24 thread pattern) with Ruger® Muzzle Brake etc, etc, ..." I expect the No1 is the same. I suppose the brake could be replaced with a thread protector. Ruger could offer some kind of bayonet attach brake cover for hunting and remove for range shooting. They dont, I mean they could. That would be an interesting gunsmith project. For the ranch rifle perhaps.

The combination of features on the Ranch rifle make sense with a very light and quick rifle 16" barrel at 5.5 pounds (before scope). The No1 at 7.5 pounds (before scope) is a collector novelty with features that some one though had eye appeal.

If some one wants one, any back yard FFL, who does your $25 online transfers and can place the order for you direct from Lipsey. You pay wholesale & shipping plus his $25 fee, all up front in cash I would imagine or cc with some adjustments. I dont know what wholesale is, probably around a 1000 and change.

It should be a shorter rifle than the American - no magazine. And in some states may be considered a primitive weapon, usable in extra seasons. Last, being a single shot, you have more flexibility as to bullets and OAL.

Whether or not that's worth a #1 price tag, YMMV

edit, well I see the American has a 16" barrel, so no the #1 won't be shorter with a 20"

It's still a matter of the above if it will be usable to some folks.

Another cheap(er) option for them as have already got a frame (note the WV phraseology) would be an Encore barrel or maybe a Contender (don't know if that's a safe option). The TCs would be only a little ooglier than the No.1.

Or buy the No1 in 44mag, that meets all the special state rules and 1/2 pound lighter and looks the part.

BTDT

and there's no special state rules here, just wanted the companion carbine to revolvers

That is a No1.

The .450 Bushmaster is the hot ticket here in lower Michigan. It seems everyone is buying Ruger Americans. They are cheap and accurate (and as elegant as a fence post). Without the brake, they are not pleasant to shoot; the butt is narrow and it feels like the pad is too soft and collapses.

That being said, that #1 is butt ugly! I would like to have have a #1 in .460 S&W which is also legal here; head space on the rim rather than mouth and higher max operating pressure.

405wcf

The last .460 I saw on GB went for over $2k

I like the 460. No idea if it will be a long term success. There is nobody, other than S&W, in the revolver spaced that can make a gun for that or the 500. The 500 is rock solid suceess. The 460 is a little too much finesse for most. Now Michigan might give the 460 a boost too. The 460 seems a natural in a single shot. The 460 & 450 use the same bullets and there are some pointy options.

I also disliked how the 450 BM head spaces, but given the rules in Michigan, I understand why it would be popular. The 44mag is popular around here, where if longer range is needed just use the 7mm-08, etc. Under Michigan special rules the 6&7mm guns are not an option.

was at the gun shop, I tend to visit, after 3 weeks they still have the 2 No1s in 450 Bushmaster! at $1499.00 also had a nice Blue Walnut red pad 06 for $850.00 is temping!

Has anyone shot their no1 in 450bushmaster yet???

All of the 2016 rifles on Rugers website are Lipseys. The 2017 450 bushmaster is the last one they are going to do, as far as I know.

I saw the No1 in 450BM a few days ago. I have to say my negative opinion is unchanged. This is not to my taste.

Just to offer a contrary view. Consider this. There a whole new generation of shooters who started out with AR-15 and perhaps graduated to a black bolt action. Their whole universe is black guns and black calibers. This No1 might serve as an intro to many young shooters into the world of the single shot. I dont mean black in color, literally, its a type. The 450 bushmaster No1 might be a good thing to drawn some new buyers. Even old buyer looking for different. It is different. How many same-old same-old does the 'average' nut want. In my case, the last Ruger No1 I purchased was several year ago. I now have two and I dont plan on buying another. Could happen, Never say never. On the other hand, there are a lot of shooters out there who maybe eager to try something different. For them any No1, is a big difference.

Not to my taste either, but possibly better looking than other choices. A feller could always buy a stock set off Ebay and replace the brake with a cap, but that would add to the already exorbitant price (in my mind, anyway). Certainly, it's a rugged piece that wouldn't have to be babied.

Sure am glad I got my new Number 1 from Darrik when I did.

I was at a large sporting goods store, yesterday they had there Ruger #1 in 450 on sale $200.00 off! fellow at the counter said they are not selling to well! here in Northern Michigan!

Folks: I was at the Bob Wards chain sporting goods store in Butte, Montana last Friday and they had a short barreled Ruger #1 in 44 Remington magnum - is that a new or rare factory offering?
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VarmintGuy

There is a current run of 44 mag. so not really rare at this point.

The 450 #1 was a design failure.

The only advantage of the 460 over the 450 is the rim and ability to roll crimp. In bolt or single shots, case capacity and potential velocities are pretty much the same

This may be old news, but there is also a limited edition .450 in blue/walnut without that God-awful tank brake and with iron sights, same configuration as the .44 Mag and the new .460 S&W & .475 Linebaugh.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/692211080

I did not know. There are now six No1 on the Ruger website. That includes a 35 whelen, 30-06 and 243. I saw a 243 in an local shop. It had a nice stock. I dont see this traditional version of the 450bm. Ruger website is not keeping up. It seems the No1 is alive and well.

You could do some fun plinking with 45 LC in a 460. Also hunt with 454 which is a more common and offered with some good heavy bullets. I do wish 45LC ammo cost was in line with the 45 acp. And, The rim makes reloading easier. The 44mag makes the most sense. I guess the 460 would be my 2nd choice, if I needed something in this class.

Fourbore,

El Numero Uno is correct. The stainless/laminate 450 BM Number 1 is not a Lipsey's collaboration. This one was all Ruger.

I was wrong then, it seems like there are now quite a few No1 offered. Not all Lipsey. I was under the impression that there would be a very limited future for No1 as a collaboration with Lipsey.

Randys in Michigan now has No. 1 .450 BMs in blue/walnut without the brake.

Now that just might sell! One time I traded Randy A Harley Sporter for a bunch of guns! one was a 45-70 #1 my brother still has it!