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I hear nosler partitions were formed in the fires of mount doom. Their soft lead tips expand well and the steel shanks penetrates deep. Perfect bullet if and that is the question if your rifle shoots them well. They are precious to me.


When did Nosler start putting steel shanks in their Partitions? All of the Partitions that I've shot and seen had lead both in front of and behind the partition.

As to the OP's original question, back when the only rifle that I had was a .30-06 I would load Hornady 150 grain Spire Point bullets for mule deer and pronghorns, and Sierra 180 grain GameKings for elk. In the 10 or so years that I hunted with that rifle, I killed deer, elk, and antelope with the 150 grain Hornadys and I killed deer, elk, and antelope with the 180 grain Sierras.

Today if I was wanting one bullet in a .30-06 for all of those critters, I would look at the Barnes 168 grain TSX or TTSX bullets. I've used both of those bullets in my .300 Weatherby to take quite a few African, New Zealand, and western US animals varying in size from a 20 pound Klipspringer to a couple of Montana bull elk.




Oh for the love, I meant solid shank but solid might as well be steel. By the way, lots of lord of the rings references. If you were a nerd like me you would appreciate that.


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BUFFY AND SLIDER ~

Nice Post Replys ~
Last season I witnessed your " eat right up to the hole " drill.
Young hunter, one Barnes 130g 270 win driving through not only one mature
Mulie but a second sport model that ran up behind the first. As
you described four pea size holes. Even though it was an interesting
french double both animals took too much time to expire for two 3/4
high double lung shots. Not terrible and weird stuff happens but
if you would please educate me on your barnes kills on Bull Elk.
In the mountains I hunt guys that are slinging copper prefer Nosler
E Tips but obviously Barnes are getting it done so some detail on Elk kills
would be sweet. The whole copper thing is tempting since they seem to fly great
and perhaps possible best best for shoulder slam if that scenario is best option.

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150 E-Tip or TTSX in your 30-06.

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30-06 150 grain TTSX is my go to for all. If I had to pick a second it would be the 150 accubond. Both are Strong, accurate, moderate recoil pretty flat out to 350 or so depending on your load. Go forth and fill your freezer.


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I think your plan will do just fine GTS9.

Last fall I shot pronghorn, mule deer, black bear & elk, all with the 165 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip at about 2900 fps, from my 30-06 Rem 700. Worked great. Freezer is still very full.

Best of luck on your hunting season!

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284 Win with 160 gr Nosler Partitions.
Pencil holes and blood trails are of little interest to me.
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I'd load the 165 grain Partition in the 30-06 and slay creatures till God comes back.


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Draftmule, I shot 6 Hartman Mountain Zebra (which are MUCH TOUGHER than an Elk) and 2 Gemsbok about 2 months ago in Namibia. I used handloaded 140gr Barns TTSX in 7mm Rem Mag.

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I can not tolerate the recoil of the 30-06 cartridge due to a motorcycle crash that left me injured with two compound fractures in my collar bones. Although healed, recoil still bothers me. So I hunt elk with a .308 Savage rifle shooting the Accubond ammo. The barrel has been MagnaPorted and a thick Limbsaver pad has been installed to tame the recoil. I've had very good luck with this outfit. The unique Accubond bullet provides excellent accuracy, rapid expansion within the chest organs, and above average weight retention. My longest shot was approx 225 yards. This ammo is a keeper.

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
10 years ago I'd have said trophy bonded bearclaw and still would but I have never had a TSX/TTSX fail me yet. There are so many good bullets these days that you'd be hard pressed to find a hunting bullet that wouldn't serve all your purposes.

Same here RE Barnes. When it really matters, which is almost all the time, Barnes gets the call for us.


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Originally Posted by GTS9
Rather than alternating between a .25-06 for deer and antelope and a .30-06 with a really strong bullet for elk this year; I'd prefer, for the sake of both keeping things simple and doing a little experimenting, to just use one round out of one rifle for all three. That means finding a bullet that wil hold up and penetrate on an elk but isn't too tough and will provide proper expansion for antelope and deer (last year I used my elk cartridge, a bonded 180 grain .30-06 which is marketed for its weight retention, to bring down a very nice mule deer buck, and let me just say I was not impressed. Maybe I'm just talking out my ass here, but it just seemed like the bullet was too strong to provide the appropriate expansion and resulting terminal damage on the body of a lighter-than-elk big game animal). The bullet I'm considering using this fall is the 150 grain Nosler Accubond. The Accubond has a good reputation, and as I understand was designed to act around the same principles as the legendary Nosler Partion. Personally, I'm not worried that a 150 grain 06 won't be enough for elk. I know for certain that elk can be killed quite handily with 270s; in fact I know people who do just that, and some that even use smaller 6.5s. Plus, the lighter weight will help ensure better expansion on lighter game.

Does anybody else have an 06 cartridge they use for multiple game species? And what do you think of the 150 grain Accubond for the task I want performend?


One of the main strengths of the 30-06 is versatility, but that means using different loads. Sticking to just one deprives you of one of the biggest reasons to use a 30-06, but I could probably get by with 165- or 180-grain Partitions if forced to go this route.


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If Montana had a standing army, a 270 Win with Federal Blue Box 130's would be the standard issue.
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These Federal Trophy Bonded Tip bullets look pretty good. Basically a lead core bonded front with a solid copper shank.

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Wow, quite an interesting bullet!


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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
These Federal Trophy Bonded Tip bullets look pretty good. Basically a lead core bonded front with a solid copper shank.

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I'll be curious when and if they are available for sale. The TBBC was sold in 25 packs for a ridiculous price. Maybe this time around Federal actually wants to sell some.....

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I'll be curious when and if they are available for sale. The TBBC was sold in 25 packs for a ridiculous price. Maybe this time around Federal actually wants to sell some.....


Available now at MidwayUSA: Federal Premium Trophy Bonded Tip B...Grain Polymer Tipped Boat Tail Box of 50

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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
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I'll be curious when and if they are available for sale. The TBBC was sold in 25 packs for a ridiculous price. Maybe this time around Federal actually wants to sell some.....


Available now at MidwayUSA: Federal Premium Trophy Bonded Tip B...Grain Polymer Tipped Boat Tail Box of 50


Well there you go. I'll buy a couple boxes of the .277 130s and report back. grin

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I know the real answer is likely the 450 grain Barnes TSX .458 caliber bullet, which negates every listing prior, but make a list of the animals you hunt that could not be taken cleanly with the bullet of your choice. Bet there isn't many. That is why a cow has different steaks, not everyone wants chuck every night. Bullets are like that.


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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by aheider
I'll be curious when and if they are available for sale. The TBBC was sold in 25 packs for a ridiculous price. Maybe this time around Federal actually wants to sell some.....


Available now at MidwayUSA: Federal Premium Trophy Bonded Tip B...Grain Polymer Tipped Boat Tail Box of 50



This is really good news as far as I'm concerned. When the TBBC was first introduces by Federal in their ammunition they promised to make it available as a component. That was what, about 15 years ago?

More than once I've written that the Tipped Trophy Bonded is, IMHO, one of the best hunting bullets available. I tried to talk Mike Brady at North Fork to add a tip, to no avail. The new owners of North Fork have not added a tip either. While I have quite a few North Fork bullets on hand, I want to try the Tipped Trophy Bonded as the B.C. is higher. If they provide the accuracy and on-game performance the North Fork do, I'l be one very happy camper as the midwayusa price is considerably less than what I pay for North fork bullets.

Thank you Federal! (Fiinally!)


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Originally Posted by oldslowdog

I use a Lapua 155 gr Scenar. I shoot it in a 308 but an 06 would work as well.

A lot of folks on here use it on elk and I know it works well on deer and antelope.

Best of all, it seems to shoot well in every gun I've tried.

Try a box, you'll like them.



When Grafs was selling those 1k boxes of 155 Scenars, I picked some up. I could hunt deer, elk, coyotes, rockchucks, rabbits, etc for a good while before I run low. It is nice having one load that will hammer all manner of critters within reasonable ranges. My daughter and I run them in our Tikka .308s and have no complaints.


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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Originally Posted by oldslowdog

I use a Lapua 155 gr Scenar. I shoot it in a 308 but an 06 would work as well.

A lot of folks on here use it on elk and I know it works well on deer and antelope.

Best of all, it seems to shoot well in every gun I've tried.

Try a box, you'll like them.



When Grafs was selling those 1k boxes of 155 Scenars, I picked some up. I could hunt deer, elk, coyotes, rockchucks, rabbits, etc for a good while before I run low. It is nice having one load that will hammer all manner of critters within reasonable ranges. My daughter and I run them in our Tikka .308s and have no complaints.

Good stuff right there. Those bullets work.


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