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Well, open the safe door once in a while....
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I would add that when it comes to dangerous game bigger is better. Never have hunted dangerous game in Africa, but having personally killed two large coastal brown bears and having participated in the killing of 4 more, I have a deep and abiding respect for how vindictive and powerful they are. I'm no longer in the brown bear hunting business but if I was I'd go with nothing smaller than a 375 H&H. I'd carry a 20mm chain gun if I could.
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I did not notice any difference in two elks behavior when hit with a 260 gr Partition from a 375 H&H (~50 yards) or a 140 gr TSX from a 270 Win (~250 yards). They both just fell over.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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The heart and lungs of elk are covered with an elastic lining that is similar in strength to 1" armor plating!!! They are damn neer impossibly to kill short of useing a cannon........or, armor piercing bullets from an /06 will work. Plus the heart and lungs are only 2" in diameter combined and that's why a cannon works best because that way you can hit the elk in the ass and the sheer shock will still completely blow the front end off of an elk taking out the heart and lungs. Good luck and be prepared to track at least 30 miles even if the head is blown completely off because an elk will still run based on muscle memory instinct alone. ☺
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Good bullets properly placed always work, but not everyone knows what good bullets are, or can reliably place them in the field
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So I'm at the range yesterday testing some loads for a couple of rifles. One is a 308 Norma Mag shooting 180 grain Accubonds at a little over 2900 fps. The other is a .270 Win shooting 140 grain Accubonds at a little over 3000 fps. Both turned out to be very accurate loads.
So I got to thinking about how much real difference there is between the two on game. For argument's sake, let's say the rifles are identical with the exception of chambering. Under what conditions would you choose the bigger of the two? I don't have a .270 or .308 Norma, but I do have a .280 and a .300WM. The .280 gets 140g North Fork SS, Nosler AccuBond and Barnes TTSX. The .300 gets 180g Barnes MRX and TTSX and North Fork SS. The .280 has been antelope, deer and elk hunting, the .300WM has hunted deer and elk. There is little I would do with one I would not do with the other. At 600 yards the .300WM probably has an edge and would be my first choice. Whether that advantage would show up on any particular shot is questionable a best.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
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