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Any ideas when it shows up? I'm a wee bit anxious this year!

They are doing deer now. Elk will be next. Maybe late this coming week.

How does the backdoor work again? I can't remember what I remembered anymore much less what I forgot.

Go into Buy/Apply then look at Habitat Stamps and Other Licences On File. If you have a code the starts with a 5 you have a license. ie I have a moose license ap 475 and also a resident moose 575. I drew a cow moose.

So resident deer app 490 means no tag again this year? Showed a 480 code for elk for what it's worth.

No I don't think they have posted the 500 series deer codes yet. Sheep, Mtn, Goat, Moose, and Bear are done to my knowledge from what I have seen on other sites. They have not done deer, elk, and antelope yet.

Also the problem with this "backdoor" is that you do not know if you drew your first, second, third choice. You just know you got something unless you just put a first choice hunt code only.

Dude, just resign yourself to the E/S archery tag and keep practicing with your bow.

It's what I'm hoping for and trying to give me motivation to get out and shoot on days when I'm supposed to be taking care of Mama!

Back door method doesn't work if you use a paper application.

No Moose, again.

CB,

Why would anyone use a paper app these days?

Old habits die hard !! I still don't know about moose----I'm still hoping>

If I'm not mistaken, this will be the last year for paper applications?

Yes, it's the last year. 2018 everything will be online. Kind of stupid---I fill out several applications for old guys who don't have a computer. Plus add in those that don't like their credit cards to be used online. These are mostly older hunters. Guess it's OTC or just watch the Broncos on TV.

I always preferred on-line, it's much easier especially if you're submitting for multiple species.

Plus, the on-line system won't let you make a mistake (for the most part) and a mistake on a paper application gets the whole thing rejected.

Any old-timers out there who want help with their apps on-line for next year, send me a PM. If using your credit card on-line is the issue, I'll use my own card and you can pay me cash. Residents only.

Hate to see anyone, much less an old-timer not apply because of this.

tmax:

Just cool your heels. Have patience. Try again in a week or ten days.

I don't think they have finished with deer yet.

KC

I'm not even gonna look. I'm just gonna sit here and wait for the mailman to place that envelope with the tag in my hand......

Backdoor results for deer are up.

Hmmm, 2017- 591 Non Res Deer is a good sign?

Yes, you drew. Don't know if it is your 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice.

Deer +1, waiting for Elk

No on deer for me - second year in a row....

Are antelope and elk up? All my codes show 400's.

I'm with prm got a tag but who know s which season or sex!!!

1st choice was 2nd rifle, 2nd choice was a PP.

Any guesses as to when they make the elk selections?

My wife and granddaughter drew buck tags last year and this year. I wish i had the same luck they do.

No deer three years in a row. Not even trying for hi points areas. DNR told me the areas required 0 PP.
Non residence friends all drew 3 years in a row.....frustrating.

LC

590 RES DEER

I probably got a plains doe tag since it takes 2 points to draw the buck tag in the unit where I applied and I drew last year.

KC

I just got my moose refund in today's mail. Now I have 3 points plus 17 weighted points. It maybe time to throw in the towel.

Before giving up,you might try a cow tag ,just to say you shot a moose in CO.That is what I did. Even that took me 16 years though

Ok school me

2017-491 Non Resident Deer App
2017-059 habitat stamp with license
2017-591 Non Resident Deer

So I have both an 4 and a 5 number. Also put in for only one area then refund.

So I'm guessing I got it?

Yes you did.

Yup thanks. I went and found the old gohunt link.

https://www.gohunt.com/read/skills/how-to-navigate-colorado-early-backdoor-draw-results#gs.=47vadE

I spoke to a Wildlife Officer at the ISE in Jan and he said you MUST have 4 points before you're eligible but not sure I understand the weighted side.

I also got my moose refund and buck deer so far.

Nope.Three points is all you can accrue.Just like sheep and goat.
Here is what CPW sent me a few years ago about weighted points.

They assign your application a random draw number when it comes to the office that number is divided by the number of weighted pp's you have lowering your draw number. (the lowest draw number gets the license). If you get a low draw number and have the most weighted pp's then you should have the lowest draw number. It isn't a concrete thing, let me explain further and here is where we say it increases your probability of drawing.
Example: applicant 1 gets assigned a draw number (round numbers are easier for examples) of 120 and has 3pp's and 3 weighted points so we divide his draw number by 3 thus lowering his draw number to 40. Applicant 2
Is assigned a draw number that is higher, say 150 but he has 5 weighted pp's so we divide by 5 giving him a draw number of 30 so he will have a lower draw number than applicant 1. But if they both had the same number of weighted pp's and in the above scenario the person with the lowest randomly assigned computer number would win the license. It is possible for someone to draw a license just because he was lucky enough to get a low number in the beginning. That's why the number just increases your law of probability in the draw the more weighted pp's you accumulate over a newer applicant increases your odds each year. Hope I haven't totally blown the explanation or raised any larger questions. It has always been easier for me to explain in person or on the phone. Good luck in your draws this year. Hope you get a low draw #.

This is actually the IT department full employment act. I have been applying for moose licenses since day one. What it all boils down to me is it's pretty much an open draw, everything boils down to that "random" number you get from the luck of the draw and then the math to give you a number that is luck of the draw. Seems to me a lot of work and computer programming just to get an open draw. I'd just as soon they drop all the pretense and just throw us all into one big pot and we take our chances on a simple draw. That's what it kinda turns into after you get your 3 points anyway.
I've had several friends draw moose tags that didn't have half of the points I do, good for them, so lets give up the pretense that all of of this verbal judo of weighted points and some math formula and just do a simple draw from all the applicants.
Thems my thoughts.

You can go here is see how see PP then weighted PP

http://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Hunting/BigGame/Statistics/Moose/2016MooseCrawRecap.pdf

Thanks folks!!!!!

OK, so my results are "2017 - 480 RES ELK APP" and "2017 - 022 RES RIFLE ELK"

I'm guessing no tag? I really wanna be wrong here...

Of you don't have a 500 number,no tags

Thanks Saddlesore....i guess [sad face]

Well, now to go shopping for some OTC something somewhere....