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I like the 223, my sons friend is a firearms instructor, he gave us a 55 gallon barrel of Lake City brass. I size, trim, ream primer crimp a few at a time.
What did Garth Brooks say" I have enough money for my kids, my grandkids and their kids". I have 223 brass for a thousand years. One is none and two is one.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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If I had needed a 224 cartridge with more horsepower than my 222s, I would have this. The 225 has nice lines. Might still get one. But the barrel twist would have to be 1 in 10 or 1 in 12. For the heavier bullets. 60 to 70 gr. ![[Linked Image]](http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/w413/Murphy400/Reloading/225WinchesterRifleCartridge_zpseawcb1xz.jpeg) Steve: You are correct. While the 63gr Sierra is the most accurate bullet in my old 225 M70 (14" twist), the 64gr Win PP won't stay on a pie plate.
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
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What is a .223AI?
(Wasn't that a great thread?)
and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8) d.v. Musings on TDS
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I had a Sako 222 Rem. Mag with a BOFORES bbl. that is still #1 with me.
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Personally I use my 20 tac more and more and the 223 ai is going to get chopped as soon as I burn up the ammo...
The 222 rem get more use also....
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The 222 Rem has long been my all time favorite but the 223AI is gaining ground quickly.
I shoot 50 grain bullets out of the deuce but have found literally dozens of loads that will shoot under 1/2" @ 100 yards. It has been a wonderful cartridge to shoot and reload. Of all the load work I've done with multiple rifles, I've settled on H335 and a 50 grain TNT.
The 223AI is wicked little bugger. I shot 40 & 50 grain NBT's over H335 in my first one, a 1 in 12" twist. My most recent AI is twisted 1 in 8" and slings 75 ELDs @ 3060 fps with a mild load of Lever. Fun factor is high.
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DakotaGun:
Welcome to the Campfire!
Sounds like you're going to fit right in...
cheers and best regards
seafire
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Thank you, Seafire. Glad to be part of the group.
I have some experience to offer and more to learn in this outdoor game that is hunting/shooting/rifles/reloading/etc. etc.
This is a nice place to be. Thanks for the welcome!
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Welcome Dakotagun. I used to shoot lots of 335 but found a good deal on accurate 2230 . It seems to be cleaner. Less burned powder and less cleaning.
My one 223 has something over 14000 rounds thru it but is ready for a new barrel. A 20 Prac seems about right.
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I shot 223 for 40 yrs even used it when doing control work, great cartridge. When the barrel went re-did the rifle in 6x45 even better. My favorites are the 222 Rem and the 22-204. In the 222R 52gr Speer HP's for coyotes and 33gr HP's over 800x for the small stuff. The 22-204 is my pelt hunting rifle 40gr NBT's maxed out, perfect. For off season coyotes or really open country I take the 22-250. I regularly hunt coyotes with 22 Sav HP, 5.6x50R Mag and 6.5x58R in combo guns and the 6mm-204 set up just to run Lead Free's.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
Make mine a Minaska
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Man, I miss the days where we could have dumb threads like this and all get along.
Bump
Long live the .223AI!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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long live ANY varmint cartridge....
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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... I regularly hunt coyotes with ... 5.6x50R Mag ... Erich, Can you please share a bit of your experience and loads with the 5,6x50R and how does it compare to the 223/223AI ? Privately if you wish, thank you! Alvaro
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In the 5 years since Higginez started this thread I have used many of the cartridges listed on this thread, I like most of them but always come back to the best, for me it's the triple deuce with 40's Long Live the 222
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I prefer classic.
Semper Fi
I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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I have several of those, if the question was what is the best Rock Chuck-Predator cartridge then I would agree. for prairie dogs you get many more rounds down the tube before cool time with a 222.
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223 AI-28g Of 335= 3800 fps on a 26" barrel, shooting bug holes with 50g V max
223 AI-55g what evers, 3650+ amazing accuracy, N135 is 3700 with cci br4 at the Node
H335 and AA2300 just seems to give indefinite barrel life
New special purpose project is a 22/204 on Winchester brass with .020 freebore.
Real world: 55g at 3700 with 29g of XBR 8208, cci br 4 primer, 1/4" groups at 200 yards, coyotes and hogs with 55g Speer Gold dots. 69g Tipped Sierra Mk is 3150 at the accuracy node, 3250 max(CFE)and the 60g TMK is 3350, CFE
The NO Brainer is the 223 AI.
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I used to think that till
The 20 cal
Came available the 20 tac replaced all my 223 prairie dog guns my Sako 461 223 alley wasn’t getting any use so I shortened it and chambered it in 222
20vt is a stable
20VT turbo would probbly replace them
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If I recall...........approx 9500 rds..........
....... I missed this earlier but glad I caught it now. I have one 223AI and it is perhaps the most accurate rifle I own. Ive put only about 3K rounds through it, so I dont have to worry about my barrel going south just yet... It doesnt get used much, the occasional varmint and feral hogs.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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