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#12024812 - 05/10/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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BIC all the way. I have and carry a couple of the butane lighters. I trust the BICs to work and I like that you can see the amount of fuel remaining. I also like to use them to read wind so I have way too many with my. I figure they weigh nothing and I don't want to ever have to start a fire with a spark if I don't have to.

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#12025072 - 05/10/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: 338WIN]  
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Originally Posted by 338WIN
BIC all the way. I have and carry a couple of the butane lighters. I trust the BICs to work and I like that you can see the amount of fuel remaining. I also like to use them to read wind so I have way too many with my. I figure they weigh nothing and I don't want to ever have to start a fire with a spark if I don't have to.
If it's an emergency, using a spark is the LAST thing you want to do. You want an inferno and you want it NOW.


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#12025676 - 05/10/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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Bic, one in my pocket, one in my pack, and military matches in my first aid kit.

#12026136 - 05/11/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by 338WIN
BIC all the way. I have and carry a couple of the butane lighters. I trust the BICs to work and I like that you can see the amount of fuel remaining. I also like to use them to read wind so I have way too many with my. I figure they weigh nothing and I don't want to ever have to start a fire with a spark if I don't have to.
If it's an emergency, using a spark is the LAST thing you want to do. You want an inferno and you want it NOW.


If you want an inferno and want it now, that leaves the road flare option posted above. I've carried flares or a flare gun in my pack for years. You can start a fire with a flare gun, but what you're shooting into must be able to absorb it or it's going to ricochet.


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#12029014 - 05/12/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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My old ZIPPO works every time and has for many, many years.

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#12029232 - 05/12/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Leanwolf]  
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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
My old ZIPPO works every time and has for many, many years.

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L.W.
How well does that inner tube keep the fluid from drying out? I can fill mine and in 4 or 5 days, it's dry.


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#12029425 - 05/12/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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R.C., a number of years ago I ran a test on that. First, I don't smoke so I was not lighting the ZIPPO 25/30 times a day for cigarettes. Once a day I would light it for 15 seconds, simulating getting some fine kindling going, then put the rubber band back on. I did this each day for eight weeks and it never failed. After eight weeks, I stopped the test simply because what it proved to me was that in an emergency, it would last me a long time.

I've also carried a cleaned small Tobasco bottle as illustrated, filled with lighter fluid. It is in my day pack but I've never had to use it.

Should one overfill the lighter, the rubber "ranger" band keeps the lighter fluid from leaking and blistering one's skin, if it is in a pants pocket. I cut the bands from a used bicycle tube. If I overfill the Zippo, I just let it stand open for five minutes and then no problem.

The ZIPPO is far more windproof than a BIC, can stand alone, and much easier to light if one's hands are extremely cold. I also put it in a glass of water for two hours to see if the band really made it waterproof. It does. Fired up on the first strike.

The ZIPPO that is burning I won in a Sunday afternoon barracks poker game when I was in the Army stationed at Fort Gordon, Georgia, in 1959. About ten years ago it was getting "weary" so I sent it to ZIPPO and they returned it tightened up, a new wick, cotton filling, flints, and nearly like a new one. Only cost to me was the $2.00 to mail it to them. That's what you call quality service. grin

As I said, it works for my needs.

L.W.


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#12029529 - 05/12/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Leanwolf]  
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When using a bic for just about any purpose I always end up with a half cooked thumb. I don't want any lighter that runs only with my hide adjacent to the flame. Zippos aren't perfect, but they are pretty darned good. I have had very good experiences with several different flint/steel options.


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#12029641 - 05/12/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Leanwolf]  
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Originally Posted by Leanwolf
R.C., a number of years ago I ran a test on that. First, I don't smoke so I was not lighting the ZIPPO 25/30 times a day for cigarettes. Once a day I would light it for 15 seconds, simulating getting some fine kindling going, then put the rubber band back on. I did this each day for eight weeks and it never failed. After eight weeks, I stopped the test simply because what it proved to me was that in an emergency, it would last me a long time.

I've also carried a cleaned small Tobasco bottle as illustrated, filled with lighter fluid. It is in my day pack but I've never had to use it.

Should one overfill the lighter, the rubber "ranger" band keeps the lighter fluid from leaking and blistering one's skin, if it is in a pants pocket. I cut the bands from a used bicycle tube. If I overfill the Zippo, I just let it stand open for five minutes and then no problem.

The ZIPPO is far more windproof than a BIC, can stand alone, and much easier to light if one's hands are extremely cold. I also put it in a glass of water for two hours to see if the band really made it waterproof. It does. Fired up on the first strike.

The ZIPPO that is burning I won in a Sunday afternoon barracks poker game when I was in the Army stationed at Fort Gordon, Georgia, in 1959. About ten years ago it was getting "weary" so I sent it to ZIPPO and they returned it tightened up, a new wick, cotton filling, flints, and nearly like a new one. Only cost to me was the $2.00 to mail it to them. That's what you call quality service. grin

As I said, it works for my needs.

L.W.

I'm not a smoker either, but love my Zippo and carry it every time I head to the mountains, and EDC during the winter months.

I've read (in passing) about using a ranger band, but haven't tried it yet. I definitely will now.

I have tried sealing the lighter with a lap of electrical tape, and wrapping extra around the bottom. But ultimately that didn't work because the fumes seem to dissolve the adhesive after a few days..........and it's a minor pain playing with the tape.

With two month fill times, and two hour water resistance, I'll be tracking down some inner tube very soon.


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#12029845 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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I have a bike out here with a flat. Maybe it needs a new tube.
That's the only problem I've had with Zippo's. Evaporation. I'm another non-smoker so I carry mine only for fire starting.


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#12029859 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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In a pinch you can drop a couple of drops of gasoline on the wick of your zippo. Don't put it in the cotton in the bottom. miles


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#12029897 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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If I'm in need of a fire, I'm likely not near enough to the truck to have gas handy. If the truck IS handy, I likely will have a propane torch in it.
Besides, my truck is a diesel and that's not a bad fire starter either.


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#12030164 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by 338WIN
BIC all the way. I have and carry a couple of the butane lighters. I trust the BICs to work and I like that you can see the amount of fuel remaining. I also like to use them to read wind so I have way too many with my. I figure they weigh nothing and I don't want to ever have to start a fire with a spark if I don't have to.
If it's an emergency, using a spark is the LAST thing you want to do. You want an inferno and you want it NOW.


Yep just read Jack London's story about lighting a fire and you'll see just how grave that situation can be.

I've got those mini-BIC lighters stashed everywhere throughout my outfit, but ALWAYS keep a couple in a ziplock full of vasoline-covered dryer lint. That stuff is pretty serious fire starter.

Funny... I'll buy a pack of 'em and have them in what seems like every pocket during a trip, then come home and it's as if they vanish.


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#12030290 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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bic... three or more scattered throughout the pack.


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#12030551 - 05/13/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Tanner]  
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Originally Posted by Tanner
Still Flickin' my Bic... I usually carry 3...

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#12036480 - 05/16/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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I pack a small Bic -- but I usually start fires with a ferro steel striker with cottonballs smeared with vaseline. That will get a fire going in even the worst conditions and I find it far more reliable than the Bic. Not a knock on the little lighter, but wet fingers can cause them to crap out.

#12036996 - 05/17/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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I carry a FIRE STARTER KIT in a waterproof pouch that contains the following items:
Bic Lighter
Small box of waterproof matches (strike on box)
Small box of strike anywhere matches (not waterproof)
Flint Striker (will start your stove when matches get wet and lighter gets cold/wet)
Hemp Rope (16")
Phone Book Pages (several)
Fire Sticks (sawdust impregnated with paraffin)
Triox cube

I use to carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer (70% alcohol). But never used it, so I stopped carrying it.

If I'm going to be in a coastal rain forest, I carry a couple of small road flares.

When car camping I K.I.S.S. and use charcoal lighter fluid.

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#12037236 - 05/17/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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The problem with strike on box matches is that the box wears out when 2/3 of the matches are left. Does anyone sell a striker that will light them instead of the box? I'd buy several if I could find them.

The current strike anywhere matches are a joke. They won't. I don't care if the junkies poison themselves making meth from matches. Why should the rest of us suffer because they're idiots? I want our good matches back.

When I'm car camping, I use a propane torch. It also goes along on llama pack trips when I don't have to carry it. It's great for lighting a tent stove.


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#12040789 - 05/18/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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I love the film canister stuffed w/ dryer lint rolled with vasoline.

Stuff is amazing, tho my wife asked me one day why I had the gasoline by my work bench and was going through a brand new container so fast...


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In spite of all that's wrong here
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And beauty abounds?

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#12041888 - 05/19/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: efw]  
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Two lighters I use above. Both are piezo style, which I much prefer over butane flame. The low cost angled lighter is WAAAAY easier to start a fire with than the expensive Storm Proof orange one. The lid on the Storm proof monstrosity gets in the way of lighting tinder. The angled flame head on the cigar lighter is just right to light tinder and keep thumb and fingers from getting too hot if you keep the lighter going for several seconds.

I've got some Bics around but have had the striker mechanism come apart into tiny pieces in pocket or pack too may times to depend on any lighter of that type, including the angled cigar lighter shown above. My backup and which I use more than the lighters just to keep proficient, is the ferro flint and steel. I have ferro rods stuck in every pack, glove box, etc. With easily ignitable tinder they are as fast as a lighter and I can work them with cold hands better than flicking a lighter. My hands have been too cold to work a lighter but the flint and steel works with larger muscles, not just finger muscles.

#12042077 - 05/19/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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couple Bics & Swedish fire steal.

#12053525 - 05/25/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: Okanagan]  
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Originally Posted by Okanagan
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Two lighters I use above. Both are piezo style, which I much prefer over butane flame.



I have two of those too. They don't work at altitude though. Even a bic has a measly flame at 11,000'. Best thing I've found at two miles high is a zippo.

#12053666 - 05/25/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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bic and a box of matches


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#12053758 - 05/25/17 Re: What lighter is everyone using [Re: dye7barrel]  
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In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...
We don't hunt at those elevations here so I've never encountered that problem w the piezos.

We always have newspaper from wrapping things in panniers, but even when trying to keep it dry, it still gets damp enough to be junk for starting a fire.

We've been known to take the gas tank off the Coleman stove and use it as a torch. That gets a fire going pretty well.


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