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#12042334 - 05/19/17 What's your standard plains game rig ???  
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For those of you who hunt plains game relatively frequently, have you sorted out a standard rifle/scope/ammo combination that works for you? If so, let's hear the details.

Also, if you have established a standard shooting practice routine prior to a safari, let's hear the details of your program.


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#12042407 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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300WM Blaser K-95 pushing 168TSX about 2950. Z3 scope. Small, packs nice, and accurate.

#12042553 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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30/06 Custom Pre-64, 168TSX, Z6 1.7-10x42 Everything I hit seems to die quickly w/o much drama.

#12042581 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Made 2 trips... My rifle was my old .300 WM with 200 gr. Partitions over a loaded of Re22.. Clean kills, few bullets recovered..

#12042676 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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I use a Weatherby Mark X 257 Weatherby Magnum. 120 grain Nosler Partions or factory Federal Premiere 115 grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw soft points. Wears a Swarovski 3-12 with 30mm main tube 50mm objective. That is my "light" gun. Taken everything from duiker to kudu with DRT 1 shot kills. I feel it is a perfect leopard gun. But, my all around plains game gun is my Winchester M70 Super Express in 375 H&H. Maybe not the ideal plains game rig but I shoot it well and love to use it in Africa. And quite often I am combo hunting that needs a versatile gun. 375 does it. Wears an old Red field 3-9 scope. As far as ammo goes, I have used all sorts of factory 270-300 grain loads. Plain Jane green box Remington Cor-lockt and Federal blue box as well. Used the Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw soft point and Hornady fmj. I know,... Factory ammo on a safari?? I work sick crazy hours and quite often don't have the time to workup a nice hand load. At least work allows me to sqweek out a few safaris. No B.S. those Corlokts are good plains game bullets IN THE 375 H&H. I wouldn't use them in a smaller super magnum. Common cup and core seperation or very small weight retention. Shot gemsbok with a "Texas heart shot" and the 270 gr. Went the entire length of the bull. Mangled up in his neck! No lead at all. Just copper jacket. Same can be said for Federals Hi-Shok. Soft points. For $60 they are fine. For practice shooting I do a few of the bench, then stand and shoot with an African style 3 prong shooting stick. Few boozoos give me a stupid look. Everybody else knows-safari hunter..And I always do a bit of the Ol' Harris bipod as well. My 375 has Leopold QR scope mounts so I even do a bit of open sight iron work. I truly love shooting with iron sights. Plus, I won't be a sucker when @#$$% hits the fan with my rifle being dropped, knocked over or whatever and out steps that 62 inch Kudu or 46 inch Sable.

#12042809 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Last few years it's been a BACO Winchester 70 Supergrade rebarreled to 300 H&H. 180 Partitions over H4831SC. Swaro 2,5-10x42 in DD Leupold mounts.

Been working on a 30-06 Featherweight in the same set-up but it hasn't quite jelled yet.

Paired with the 300 is a G series Model 70 in 375 H&H I built. Supergrade stock, Swaro 1.5-6x42 in DD mounts. 300 grain A Frames over H4350 or 270 A Frames, TSXs or Hornady Interlocks over Reloader 15, depending on what game is planned for.


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#12042886 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: McCray]  
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Used a bunch over the years, this one worked as good as any, and better than most. Interarms /30-06 165-180 grain premiums, your choice. Leupold 1-4X



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#12043058 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Kimber 8400 Montana in 300WSM. Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36 in Talley LW mounts. Handloads using CCI primers, Federal cases, RL17 and Barnes 168 TTSX.

#12043086 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Sure seems like the whole "killing African game" thing gets way overthunk. We're not curing cancer here, just killing critters that are mere mortals, just like every other big game animal. Use a good quality bullet out of a rifle you would normally use on any big game(and most importantly.....shoot very well!) Most importantly; place your shot where it needs to land, and you're done! We've used a 9.3x74R on the large end, and a 7-08 on the small end. Everything died. Have friends who have used many cartridges in between......same result. A reasonably constructed bullet placed with care. That's a standard plains game(or any big game) rig. Obviously, you don't want to hunt the larger PG like eland with .222. Just use some common sense and go for it.

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Thanks Dad.

#12043168 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: Zengela]  
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Forgive my simplistic post. I'll try to be more dramatic next time.......

#12043197 - 05/19/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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For last 18 trips...270 Win. M700 Ti, NULA M24, M78 Sportsman.

Mostly used 130 TTSX but before them I used TSX, Swift Scirroco & A frame, FailSafe and others. Would be very happy with nothing other than TTSX for plains game.

Leupold 3x9...three different models.

Easy peasy....

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#12043305 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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.30/06 and 180 gr Nosler Partitions.


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#12043514 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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#12043624 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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First trip RSA June 2013 used Win. 70 in .300 WBY,220 gr. Partition at 2870fps.Kudu very dead from 240 yd.,impala.warthog,no problem.Tough going away shot on zebra from 150 yd. glad I had the horsepower,penetrated 3-4 ft. of high rib cage and animal still went 120 yd.Also took a very nice cape buffalo bull.
Second trip RSA July 2016,decided to go the classic route.Custom stocked P64 Win. 70 in .270,handloaded with 140 gr. Barnes TSX at 3000 fps.One shot kill on zebra from 60 yd.Shooting through the edge of light brush on waterbuck,dead after 40 yd. dash.Wildebeest at 100 yd. down but required a finisher after it regained it's feet(somehow).Gemsbok shot too high and too far back had to be tracked 200 yd. for the finisher. Yes, the P64's are better!
Satisfactory performance from both rounds but do like the extra wallop of the bigger cartridge.Can't stress enough that shot placement is the most important factor!
Would like to return again for sable and croc and maybe another buff.Planning to take a .35 Brown-Whelan with 250 gr. Partitions for the smaller ones.
Best of Luck on your trip!

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300Weatherby MK V De Luxe with 180gr TTSXs or Nosler Partitions. Both in 180gr.

#12043976 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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300 Weatherby, Leopold 4.5-14x, B&C Reptile, 168 gr TTSX

Weekly practice off the sticks with reduced power cast bullets, and frequent off hand practice at home with a pellet rifle


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#12044693 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Normally a custom Remington Model 721 .300 H&H.....but lately I don't take any rifles to Africa....it's simply a lot easier to just rent the outfitter's gun.....usually a .30-06 and a .30-06 is actually all that's needed

#12044930 - 05/20/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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I don't have a favourite because I've only hunted African plains game once. But my PH supplied his personal rifle for me to use, as he does with many of his clients. That rifle was also used extensively for culling on his property. It has killed several hundred head of game. The PH says this is ideal for him and his clients:
Sako AV deluxe 30-06 with Swarovski 3-9 x 40 scope, and a suppressor. Shooting handholds with Barnes TSX 168 gr. bullets at about 2850 fps. He uses it on everything up to Eland in size.

#12044978 - 05/21/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Doesn't matter much. Any 30-06 or .300 magnum with 165 or 180 grain premium bullets works fine. 3-9X variable scope.

Preparation? Verify zero and shoot 20 or 30 shots offhand.


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#12045118 - 05/21/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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SAKO Classic in 375 H&H topped with a Leica ER 2.5-10 x42 Scope and firing Norma Oryx 300 Grain bullets. Anything bigger, firing off Norma 350 Grain Woodleighs. Prepared to lawfully shoot anything, other then locals.

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#12045204 - 05/21/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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Depends on what other game is on the menu during the safari.

Have used the following with good success:

1. Dakota African Model 76 in .416 Rigby. Swarovski 1.5-6x42. 400 grain Swift A-Frame. Multiple PG animals. Also accounted for buff and lion.

2. Custom Pre-'64 Winchester Model 70 in .338 Winchester. Swarovski Z6i 1.7-10x42. 225 grain Nosler Partition. Multiple PG animals. Also accounted for a leopard and an eland.

3. Winchester Custom Shop M70 in .300 Win Mag. Zeiss 2.5-10x42. 200 grain Swift A-Frame. Multiple PG animals..

4. Winchester Model 70 in .30/06. Leupold 2.5-10x42. 180 grain TSX. (PH's loaner rifle. used to shoot bait animals).

5. Custom Mauser M98 in 300 H&H. Zeiss 2.5-10x42. Forget which ammunition was used. Multiple PG animals.

All worked well.

My recommendation, based on personal experience, is any rifle from .30/06 through .416 with a very high quality scope and premium ammunition. First criteria should be how well you shoot that particular rifle. Second criteria should be what animals are on the menu. If you have a pet .270 that you shoot well, bring it. Ditto for a .308, .280, 7mm-08 or 7x57. I imagine a .375 or 9.3x62 would also perform admirably, but I have never brought one to Africa personally.

Another thing to consider is where you will be hunting. If you are on a PG hunt, but the area is also populated by DG, I would bring at least .375 with a soft up and solids down. If you get an unexpected charge by a buff or an elephant, you will want more in your hands than a .30/06. You can always eject the soft and quickly chamber a solid.

Am planning on a PG hunt next June (2018) in a non DG area.. Will either bring a BACO Winchester M70 super grade featherweight in 7x57 Mauser (Swarovski Z3 2.5-10x42), a custom M98 in .30/06 (Zeiss 2.5-10x42) or a Blaser R93 in .30/06 (Zeiss 2.5-10x42). Working up loads now, focusing on loads built around Woodleigh Weldcore bullets. None of these rifles has been to Africa previously. This will be a PG only hunt.

#12045805 - 05/21/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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RS,

As you know, I went to Namibia in 2015. My rifle of choice, for plains game, was a Remington 700 in .338 Win Mag. That was its second trip and with 210 gr Barnes TSX, I managed to take over 25 head of plains game. It was very adequate from guinea hen (neck shot) to eland. Thank you for setting me up with Hunters Namibia Safaris. We still keep in touch with Marina. She is a wonderful woman.

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#12046492 - 05/21/17 Re: What's your standard plains game rig ??? [Re: RipSnort]  
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I have used or have seen first hand over 150 plains game shot in last 3 years with:
30-06, 300 win, 338 win, 7 mag, 300 ultra, 375 ultra, 375 H&H, & 458 win
Scopes either Leupold or Swarovski
Bullets either TSX, TTSX, Bergers, or Accubonds All different weights. Even PPU cup and core loaded ammo when ran out one trip

My conclusion is they all work when put in the right place.
But the combo I have been the happiest with is these two.

300 win shooting 180 ttsx (Barnes vortex factory loads for most) with a 3x9 or 4x12 Leupold VX3
That's the combo I tell everyone I send that ask what Is the gun to take.

Now after all I have seen the perfect combo in my mind is a 338 win with 200 gr Accubonds with Leupold 3x9 with LR duplex
Used this combo as well as 2 other guys with me accounted for 44 head from duiker to Eland almost all 1 shot kills and most had pass thrus under 300 yards. Had kills from 8 yards to 463 yards.

But next trip I am going to use 338-06 with 200 gr E tips and see what happens had alot of luck with this combo here.

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