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Anyone know where I can get my hands on some Trinovid 40009 binoculars? From what everyone says the older version Trinovid is better than the newer HD version. I just can't locate any.

Also, what would be your 2nd choice in the same price range, or even less, if I can't locate the Trinovids? I've been looking for new binos for some time now and I'm ready to put some in my hands finally.


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The Tract Toric are very tempting but my biggest concern is if I decide I don't like them they won't hold resale value compared to other brands. Also, thinking Vortex Razor HD's might be good choice but not sure I want to spend over $1000 ... hoping to stay under $1000


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Several I'd choose before any Leica personally. Meostar HD, Toric UHD, Razor HD, Conquest HD. You'll have resale issues with a Leica too because they screw over the 2nd owner with their pathetic warranty and customer service practices.


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I have opportunity to purchase a Vortex Razor HD 10x42 that's brand new in sealed box for $900 but wondering how I know they're the newest version? Aren't the Razors on their 3rd generation now? I'd want to be sure they're the newest version.


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I guess you could get a serial number and call Vortex.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
I guess you could get a serial number and call Vortex.



Would you jump at that price?


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Meopta, Zeiss conquest, leica trinovids, or the nicer vortex binos. you stick with any known reputable names resales is going to be good. the new leica's are nice as well, i wouldn't let that hold you back if you find some at a good price.


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Definitely recommend the vortex 10x42. Okay expensive ! Yep! Tooo expensive ! ... mad But excellent quality, lifetime warranty, multi-layer coatings, and o-ring seals.

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Originally Posted by RickyBobby
The Tract Toric are very tempting but my biggest concern is if I decide I don't like them they won't hold resale value compared to other brands.


Ricky, you can lose $200 on the Leica or $200 on the Toric. $200 is still $200 no matter how much the initial cash layout.
The Toric will set you back less at the outset.


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I have two pair of 10x42's.

The cabelas euro/ meoptas non-hd and Kahles.

Both are top notch.


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Are there many folks on here using the Tract Torics? Are they comparable to the Trinovids in clarity?


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Originally Posted by RickyBobby
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I guess you could get a serial number and call Vortex.



Would you jump at that price?


I wouldn't personally. The Tract Toric UHD is better, and for 60% of the cost.


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I have the Leica 4008 models, older trinovid, not new hd. They are super. Same glass as non hd ultravid. Leicas are built like a tank and much smaller than other brands, mine are about the same size as some other brand 8x32. You can't go wrong with them. I see tons of Leica stuff sell second hand in a flash, I have had Leica stuff for 30 years, including a range finder, never had issues so no CS experience except Needed new eye covers on a set of compact bins I lost, they sent with a call no charge.

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FWIW I checked a little fence the other day using Toric HD 10x42's.

Uber view and too nice for side by side glass.

As soon as I held them steady enough I could see wires against the grass. Probably half mile away with good light.
(creek crossings and the usual snow break spots)

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Originally Posted by SamOlson
FWIW I checked fence the other day using Toric HD 10x42's.


As soon as I held them steady enough I could see wires against the grass. Probably half mile away with good light.
(creek crossings and the usual snow break spots)



Sam, I'm thinking I may order both the 8x and 10x Torics and try them both if they'll let me send back whichever I decide against ... or both for that matter. I'm giving them a call in the very near future. I have a bummed eye right now and been running back n forth to eye doctor but as soon as my eye is back to 100% I plan on making it happen. Just don't want to make a bad decision when my eye isn't 100%.


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Originally Posted by spence1875
I have the Leica 4008 models, older trinovid, not new hd. They are super. Same glass as non hd ultravid. Leicas are built like a tank and much smaller than other brands, mine are about the same size as some other brand 8x32. You can't go wrong with them. I see tons of Leica stuff sell second hand in a flash, I have had Leica stuff for 30 years, including a range finder, never had issues so no CS experience except Needed new eye covers on a set of compact bins I lost, they sent with a call no charge.

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This ^^^^^^^^

I have the same model 10x42 Trinovid with the same experience; if you want Leica's, then buy Leica's; highly doubt that you'll regret it.

But truly, as others have pointed out, today there is plenty of really, really good glass available & you'll be hard pressed to tell a lot of difference on most situations. If I were buying new today, I'd probably not buy a new Leica.

Unless you are going to have more than one set of bino, I'd not buy an 8x, but that's just my preference.

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Every single pair of binoculars mentioned in this thread are quality units, if you can find a good deal on any of the above mentioned you will have made a good buy. However some of the binoculars mentioned excel at different things. I compared the Razor HD and Meostar HD very closely. The Razor is light, and slim, the Meostar porky and built like a tank with a small bit more optical quality (I could go more in depth, but this too depends on preferences.) Both good binos, but people will probably gravitate to one or the other and neither is a bad choice.

The poster above said to not go with a 8x if it's your only binocular. I would respectfully disagree as this too depends highly on preferences and hunting terrain.

I would recommend trying as many as possible to get a feel for what you like. Preferably in the field and not in the store.

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I would like to also chime in on behalf of the Tract Toric's. I currently own both the 8x42 and 10x42's. I bought the Leica Trinovid 10x42's and have looked through the 8x42's, comparing them to other binoculars I own. After comparing the 10 power units side by side my conclusion was that the Toric's offered a more contrasty and color neutral view. Apparent sharpness appeared a touch better in the Tracts for me as well.

The Leicas were good glass, and had some nice points (fabulous build quality, and great ease of view), but both me and my dad found the Toric's to provide a more detailed view. Chromatic aberration was significantly lower in the Tracts, and we found looking into shadows provided more detail and better color rendition with the Tracts. In addition, the focus wheel was smoother than the Trinovid's.

I bought the Trinovids on closeout for $900, but was happy to sell them at a loss on eBay after comparing them side by side. Btw-although I love the 10x torics, I found the 8x units were a bit less finicky on eye placement, and offered the slightly brighter, and easier view. However, when I want a 10x binocular, the Toric's are my #1 choice.

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Does anybody have any experience with the Toric vs the Conquest HD? Does the Tract have similar issues with the finicky eye position and blackouts? I really liked allot about the Conquest but those problems were pretty bad for me.

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I just received an email that all in-stock Tract optics are 10% off for Memorial day. Might be incentive to try the Toric.

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