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Seriously. I have a 14 yr old American Standard that I am ready to take a 10 lb. hammer to. At least once a week, I'm running for the plunger. I want to replace it with one that WORKS! My only requirement for the new one is that it can handle a man sized turd. Would be nice if it were the standard height. Has anyone bought one in the past few years that has been trouble free? Its hard to believe the options available on toilets these days. I feel like I am vehicle shopping.

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look on the used market for one of the old ones. you can clean it, rebuild it and put a new seat on it. if you have craigslist in your area there are all kind of building materials on there.


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Our Jacuzzi has been trouble free. But American Standard has been the standard for many years.

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Originally Posted by Southerntier8


Seriously. I have a 14 yr old American Standard that I am ready to take a 10 lb. hammer to. At least once a week, I'm running for the plunger. I want to replace it with one that WORKS! My only requirement for the new one is that it can handle a man sized turd. Would be nice if it were the standard height. Has anyone bought one in the past few years that has been trouble free? Its hard to believe the options available on toilets these days. I feel like I am vehicle shopping.


Sounds like you need to consider what's going on past the toilet. You most likely have sewer issues, not toilet issues.


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We have an American Standard Cadet 3. Not an expensive one, $170 at Lowes, have had it 8 years and pluneed it once or twice. No idea why it ever needed plunged, but with two young kids and a wife....... probably best I don't know.


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The low water use Kohler toilet is a good one, if you want to spend that much. We bought, I think, a Mansfield that works quite well.


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If you're from NY then go to Canada & get one. I don't think they have the same low water use requirements that we do so theirs actually work.

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Another one for TOTO. Very impressed after 12 years.

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The Kohler Cimarron has worked very well for 12 years for us. I would purchase again.

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Originally Posted by Southerntier8

My only requirement for the new one is that it can handle a man sized turd.

Sounds like you're looking for a Ferguson toilet, the King of Bowls.

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Take it from a dumass plumber. Buy a good Kohler. Not the cheap one. American Standard residential and commercial toilets are dog cshit.The toto comercial are ok. No experience with Toto residential toilets yet. Just my opinion.

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Another one for TOTO. Very impressed after 12 years.


TOTO for the win. I think I have only used the plunger once in 12 yrs.


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Kohler, get the tall one too thank me later...


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Originally Posted by RickyD

Sounds like you need to consider what's going on past the toilet. You most likely have sewer issues, not toilet issues.


My first thought. Gotta believe just about any toilet is less restrictive than whatever's downstream.

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Sounds like you need to consider what's going on past the toilet. You most likely have sewer issues, not toilet issues.


My first thought. Gotta believe just about any toilet is less restrictive than whatever's downstream.


It might be the toilet also. When the low flush toilets first came out most of the manufactures just changed the flushing mechanism. It took some of them a while to redesign the toilets.
The TOTO rep explained it to us the same way as this article does.
http://www.hgtv.com/design/rooms/bathrooms/the-lowdown-on-low-flow-toilets

Toto, a Japanese company that started selling toilets in the U.S. in 1989, now has about a third of the $320-million U.S. toilet market. It's gotten that slice with a better trap — a trapway, not a mousetrap. Toto's toilets (such as the Bristol) have longer and less convoluted trapways than traditional toilets, and their 3-inch (vs. 2 inches) flush valve — where the water leaves the tank — makes a big difference, too.


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Kohler Cimarron, we have installed dozens of these in the past 10 yrs.
No call backs. I have had 3 in my own house for over 10 yrs with no clogs or issues.

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Originally Posted by Southerntier8


My only requirement for the new one is that it can handle a man sized turd.




I just replaced the dump valve on my AS Champion. It goes WHOOOOSH when the trigger is pull with its large diameter.

https://www.americanstandard-us.com...m-collections/champion-toilet-collection

Dump valve is huge.


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