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Kill 90 of one species of mammal is ok, but not one of another? Selective morality at work.

Let me help with conservation, if you'll take a moment to read.

1.) Wild Africa is shrinking. More population = more settlements and less range for elephants.

2.) People and elephants cannot live together. Why? People try to grow crops, maize, beans , etc., and the elephants walk in and eat and destroy acres of it overnight. Village now starves. Next they either get the Game Scouts to come and kill the elephants or they do it snares, poison, or guns themselves. They are NOT going to starve next season.

3. As elephants get restricted to game management areas and national parks, they can multiply quickly and exceed the carrying capacity for the available land. Elephants must eat 400 lbs of forage per day-each! They tear up riverine vegetation, knock over trees, and strip an area of forage leaving other mammals without food. Erosion then kills the area for regrowth. Their numbers must be controlled to balance the carrying capacity of the land.

4.) Once and elephant is taken, it is a grand source of something desperately need in bush Africa-protein! FYI, Areas that have Tsetse flies, do not have domestic animals other than chickens. FYI, wild animals and domestic animals do not coexist. People raise cattle, lions and leopards and hyenas etc. eat them. People get pissed and poach and trap. So people live in one area, and wild Africa in another. They are not like deer that will live on your golf course.

5.) So let's look at the distribution of the elephant I took in Cameroon. I got the tusks. the local village can out en masse and striped the carcass clean, They piled meat up on their heads and hauled it all back to the village. Village is by a dirt road. Trucker drives through and stops. Sees all the meat. he BUYS a butt load of it and takes it 25 miles down the road and sells it at the next village, which has a cross road. Same thing happens their. The locals assured me that my elephant would be feed people 200 miles away in as short of three days. That is African Bush distribution.

So, you getting the picture, deerslayer?

Dude!! Mr. Bill does safari???/

You might not suck a liberal's cock, but I'd bet you'd hold one in your mouth till a f a g came along.

Wow, crazy situation. I suggest that those that commented without actually reading what happened actually go back and read. They were not hunting elephants. Dude was getting tossed by a trunk and his client shot the elephant and it fell on top of him.

Uh, no.

Gee, I missed the part in the article the specifically stated that they 'were not hunting elephants', can you quote that section for me. Thanks

Pardon me, Simon, but are you a transplanted yankee, if I may ask?

Yep again. Applauding the death of the hunter is unconscionable. Not to mention all the very valid posts about habitat destruction, crop destruction, the impact of hunting on the economy, how the meat is utilized, and so on. I'm not sure what I think of that particular hunter using hounds for leopard and lion, but that is a separate subject and I sure wouldn't wish him harm for the practice.

HMMmmmm, and yet were confident that you and your chums feeding somebody's pet dog drugs, in it's own yard, would be found amusing by the readership here.

You seem to have talking out of both sides of your mouth down to a fine art.

GTC

She's a POS liberal, just like JO.

I don't know about hunting elephants, I would be afraid I think. Takes balls to do that. Money too!!

You don't need to know anything about elephant hunting or Africa to avoid saying things this stupid.

The article just says he was leading a hunt, not that it was specifically for elephants, when he stumbled into the elephants.
Regardless from there things went downhill quickly. May he rest in peace .
As to the poster who was fine with his morality in killing deer but saw this is as immoral you are an idiot.
Your same thought process is used by the antis who want to stop your deer hunting.
It has been used in the outlawing of types of trapping, hound hunting, and baiting already

I'm pretty well SOL if my only defense mechanism is picking them up with my "Trunk".

Although I've never hunted elephants, I've hunted in Africa and in Zimbabwe. You don't have to be hunting elephants to run into problems with cow elephants. They can be quite aggressive, especially when there are calves in the group. It sounds like this man was a good PH; I'm sorry he was killed.

Some trunks are bigger than other trunks.

I'd like to see "a breeding herd" as the narration described. I can't quite imagine what was intended but the spectacle of a whole herd breeding at once is probably a scene only Capstick could describe.
Hunting in bush where there are elephants is always risky. You walk around a bush looking for an kudu and suddenly there's an elephant. Part of the fascination of wild Africa whether you are hunting elephants or not. They can be incredibly quiet and hard to see in spite of their size. If you are lucky, they are looking the other way. If not it can get downright interesting. Or worse, as this gentleman found out.

Breeding herd most likely had pregnant cow and little ones mixed in. Hence the hostilities toward man. I once did a tuskless cow in Zim. Behind the shoulder lung shot. Why? Because she would fall back from the heard and go down. She was too tough. Had trouble putting her down. There was a one tusk monster cow with a calf that wanted us very badly. Screeching and searching for us. Gave her the slip. NOTE:guns used. My Searcy 3.25 inch 500 Nitro Express with 570 Woodleigh Solids. PH used Winchester M70 458 Lott, but loaded with 458 Win Mag Solids. Apprentice hunter had BSA 458 Magnum with solids.

Nice!

You're one sick [bleep].