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Regarding the comments concerning the 162 ELD-X and H4350: I shoot 45.6 in Rem cases, FGM, at 2.805" and get 2650. That is .6 grains over book max, but my Tikkas have long throats and I worked up. This is over my Prochrono. (And a friend's.) I had three Tikka 7-08s (now two), and a buddy has another. Almost identical velocity in all four rifles. I also tried Varget, 8298, H4895, and Hunter. My best results were this load and H4895, Regarding switching to LA mags, I did it in both of mine. It did work, but in my experience the feeding was a little better with the SA, so I'm back to using those. Accuracy is the same (great) seated at 2.805 or 2.95 (IIRC.) I'd like to try the 150s, but I have several boxes of the ELD, so it may be awhile! I've posted these pics before, but here is the 162 the first time I shot them doing load work up (Yes, I know these aren't 10 shot groups people want, this was the first time out and I was just looking.):These are with a SS Lite with a SS 3-9. 100 yards 500 yards:
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I shoot 45.4gr of H4350 and a 162 Amax at 2750 in mine. Find some Power Pro 2000mr if want speed with those 150's, can't remember the charge offhand but I was up around 2875 with them with excellent accuracy.
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Wish I could actually buy H4350. Would like to try it in my Tikka 7mm-08. I think I am officially writing H4350 off for good. Doesn't matter how well it works in my rifles if I can never find any in stock.
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There is zero chance I would use a hunting load with a .005 jam into the lands......none.
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Wish I could actually buy H4350. Would like to try it in my Tikka 7mm-08. I think I am officially writing H4350 off for good. Doesn't matter how well it works in my rifles if I can never find any in stock. I agree. That's why I found some IMR 4451 and use that instead with great results.
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There is zero chance I would use a hunting load with a .005 jam into the lands......none. That's a bold statement. Why would you not? Five thousandths ain't much. P
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I had a very bad experience with that many years ago, and the short of it is when I tried to eject the loaded round, the bullet came out of the case and, was stuck. Put a real damper on a great mule deer hunt.
I feel jamming bullets in a hunting round, especially a super accurate Tikka, serves no purpose in the accuracy department.
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I had a very bad experience with that many years ago, and the short of it is when I tried to eject the loaded round, the bullet came out of the case and, was stuck. Put a real damper on a great mule deer hunt.
I feel jamming bullets in a hunting round, especially a super accurate Tikka, serves no purpose in the accuracy department. Same here. I haven't found a hunting rifle yet that required the bullet jammed to be accurate. Not saying they aren't accurate there, but there is usually a 2nd spot off the lands that'll work just as well.
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I think 2800 with a 150 is doing well from a 7-08. I've had several 7-08s and they were all dogs in the speed dept.
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I had my range day yesterday, I think I'm done. 2.156" won the day again. I'm going to focus on this load and improved technique. This load is safe in my rifle, not yours. Start low and work up. P
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Nice shooting, good load and rifle.
An observation, a same action length Tikka, in 270 or 280 might make it easier to push a 150 class bullet these speeds, and higher.
The other mention regarding groups and testing loads for hunting, in the end, it's usually the first shot that counts. I say this as I have spent my life too chasing groups and max potential speeds in a given rifle. In the end, usually the 1st shot cold bore accuracy is what makes or breaks the hunt.
So some rifles and/or loads, may not be impressive in a 3 shot or 5 shot group, they may well shoot very close to POA on their first shot.
Lastly, I agree with the poster above re: bullet jamming on a hunting load. I had a 7/08 that I could not extract, or lift the bolt, 60 degree bolt on a Browning Micro-Medallion. Very accurate rifle, IIRC a 10T, very accurate, but could not extract loaded ammo that had bullets in the lands.
So, just sharing some thoughts. Just me, but I will give up a fraction of group size for dead nuts reliability in feeding....and unloading loaded rounds. A cleaning rod is always prudent on big game hunts IME, just because you never know.
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Well, I wasn't done, seeing as how I had all those Big Game loads to try. So I hit the range today. Now I'm done. P
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That looks like a good place to stop! Very nice.
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