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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Wow! Just wow!

It is difficult to fathom how even the ACLU could be that far out of touch.



It's a liberal organization. Whatever harms or is an embarrassment to straight white Christian families is the side a liberal will be on.


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The fourth time is a charm.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Erin Marston is the fourth judge appointed to hear a case brought by three Homer City Council members and the American Civil Liberties Union against the City of Homer.

The lawsuit brought by the three and their ACLU lawyers claims the grounds for a recall election that targets them are invalid, and that their free speech rights are being violated.

The recall organizers, Heartbeat of Homer, say that it’s not the speech of the three that is the issue, but their official actions, as documented in a series of emails between them.

The first three judges were challenged by different parties in the case, whose oral arguments will be heard at 10 a.m. Monday, at the Anchorage Courthouse.

Donna Aderhold, David Lewis and Catriona Reynolds are trying to stop the special recall election, which is set for June 13. Much of the past three weeks has been tied up in finding a judge all parties could agree on.

The case was first assigned to Superior Court Judge Pamela Washington, but the City of Homer challenged the assignment.

Judge Frank Pfiffner was assigned next, but his name was challenged by Stacey Stone, the lawyer representing the citizens who filed the recall petition.

The court then appointed Judge Andrew Guidi, but he was challenged by the ACLU.

Now that each party in the case has had a chance to challenge one judge, Marston will keep the case.

The City’s notice for the special election was posted Thursday as required by law. Sample ballots will be printed and available by May 30, unless the judge agrees with the ACLU and its clients.

Heartbeat of Homer has extensive email records that show how three members of the council worked behind the scenes to make Homer a sanctuary city, where illegal immigrants could find safe haven. The resolution they worked on, in its early draft, claimed that President Trump was not legitimately elected, because he does not have “a popular mandate.”

http://mustreadalaska.com/homer-recall-case-gets-new-judge/


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
The three, who are facing a recall vote, have enlisted the ACLU of Alaska to help them sue the City of Homer over what they claim is an unconstitutional recall election scheduled for June 13.

Since when have these Marxists ever been interested in the Constitution? Oh... when they twist it to benefit themselves. Never mind the fact that their secret preparation of Resolution 16-121 and 17-109, was in direct violation of Homer City Code Title 1. The very fact that "their efforts were cloaked in secrecy" is an extremely strong indicator that they knew very well it was a violation of Federal law, that it was not in the best interest of the city and further, that it was diametrically opposed to the wishes of Homer residents.

Larry Zuccaro was indeed correct when he stated: “That is just how a Marxist would think. They’re telling us we don’t have a right to remove them? It’s basic– that we are only governed through our consent, and we’re simply following the legal process for removing our consent to have them govern,”

... and this is exactly the problem with these ultra-liberal Marxists and their twisted logic: they view themselves as above the law and want nothing more than to drive their agenda down our throats and control every aspect of our lives.

...end rant.

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The recall election in Homer, Alaska may proceed, according to an Anchorage Superior Court judge.

The lawsuit by three Homer City Council members, who sought to avoid facing voters in a special recall election, came before the court on Monday.

By Tuesday, Judge Erin Marston had filed his ruling: The three city council members who claimed that a recall election would violate their “free speech rights” were sent back to Homer to face the music with the voters.

Not to go all constitutional on you, but the voter-centric language in this ruling is worth a good look.

“The statute provides the electorate with the ability to recall elected officials for cause, but requiring ‘misconduct in office’ to be criminal conduct overly limits the statute and would deny the voters’ right to effectively seek recall of their elected officials. It would also not be a ‘liberal construction’ of the statute,” Marston wrote. He meant liberal with a small “l”.

“Plaintiffs also argue [that] the petitions reference ‘unfitness’ and unfitness is not grounds to recall a municipal official. However, this interpretation ignores the language of the recall as a whole as well as the intent of the petitions. ‘Unfit’ versus ‘committed misconduct in office’ is not decisive here. Misconduct is referenced in the recall petitions. To reject the petitions for this small distinction would be to ignore the Supreme Court’s direction to liberally construe the statute and not to create ‘artificial pleading barriers.’

“Plaintiffs claim the certification of these recall petitions is an impermissible restriction on their Constitutional guarantees of freedom of expression. Defendant and Intervenor argue that certification of the petitions does not constitute state action for First Amendment purposes. Alternatively, they argue that these protections do not protect Plaintiffs from the regular functioning political process,” the judge continued.

Judge Marston was not buying it. “Here the City of Homer Clerk is administratively doing what she was legally required to do by the recall statutes,” he wrote.

“These are not recall petitions drafted by the City of Homer; they were prepared and filed by private citizens exercising their rights under AS 29.26.250. First Amendment protections against abridgement of speech by the federal or state government do not apply to actions by private citizens. The City of Homer did nothing to suppress speech.

“It is not what the Alaska Constitution and statutes contemplated and it is an unreasonable interpretation of the law”. – Judge Erin Marston

“To conclude that anytime a recall petition is based in part or in whole on what a politician said is protected by the First Amendment would be to eviscerate the recall statute to such an extent that the populace would almost never be able to seek recall of any of their elected officials. It is not what the Alaska Constitution and statutes contemplated and it is an unreasonable interpretation of the law. The recall statutes contemplate a political process initiated by the voters. Elected officials cannot exempt themselves from the process by claiming First Amendment protections.”

The American Civil Liberties Union attorney, Eric Glass, represented the three council members.

“It’s important to remember that, in Alaska, elected officials cannot be subjected to recall simply for a political disagreement but instead can only be subjected for recall for cause,” he argued during Monday’s trial. He did not, evidently, convince the judge that the ACLU should be the determiner of what “cause” is.

That right there was the crux of the matter. Do voters determine misconduct and unfitness for office, or do ACLU and their attorneys make those distinctions?

The recall effort started after the three worked privately to craft an official city resolution that was “anti-Trump Administration” in nature, and was attempting to have Homer designated a “sanctuary city” that would shelter illegal immigrants. A later draft of that resolution was voted down by the council, even though it had been watered down to be an affirmation of Homer as a welcoming city to all.

The recall alleges the three council members are unfit for office. It also alleges misconduct, claiming damage was done when the draft of the resolution about “inclusivity” was made public.


http://mustreadalaska.com/homer-recall-election-forward-judge/


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“To conclude that anytime a recall petition is based in part or in whole on what a politician said is protected by the First Amendment would be to eviscerate the recall statute to such an extent that the populace would almost never be able to seek recall of any of their elected officials. It is not what the Alaska Constitution and statutes contemplated and it is an unreasonable interpretation of the law. The recall statutes contemplate a political process initiated by the voters. Elected officials cannot exempt themselves from the process by claiming First Amendment protections.”

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This was the outcome I was hoping for, the people of Homer are setting a good example for Anchorage to follow, they are paying attention.


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It’s all over but the counting. The polls have closed in Homer, Alaska, and it looks like one city council member may not make it through the recall election, but it all depends on the early votes, which won’t be counted until Friday.

Some 1,041 votes were cast today. Today’s results are:

Donna Aderhold – Recall 493, Don’t recall 572, or 46-54 percent

David Lewis – Recall 499, Don’t recall 563, or 47-53 percent

Catriona Reynolds – Recall 514, Don’t recall 547, or 49-51 percent

Supporters of the recall, Heartbeat of Homer, believe there are 820 early votes cast and as many as 200 absentee votes still uncounted.

“If our base went out and voted early, and I believe they did, it won’t take much to flip it the other way,” said Larry Zuccaro, one of the recall organizers.

Voting at City Hall was steady throughout the day.

Sign-wavers from both side stood on corners within sight of each other for 12 hours waving signs and flags. It was the culmination of four months of citizen activism that was ignited when the three city council members colluded via email to establish Homer as a sanctuary city, where illegal immigrants could be shielded from federal authorities.

http://mustreadalaska.com/homer-council-members-hang-onto-seats-now/


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A record-breaking voter turnout resulted in three Homer City Council members retaining their seats after this week’s special recall election.

Council member Catriona Reynolds, who became a leader in an effort to make Homer a sanctuary city, was seen by many as the most in peril. But she retained her seat by 223 votes, or 56 percent, once all the absentee ballots and early ballots were counted.

Donna Aderhold and David Lewis retained their seats on the council with a cushion of 274 and 273 votes respectively, or about 57 percent of the vote. Some 1,936 voters participated in the special election, for a 42 percent turnout, which is likely the highest in the city’s history.

Sarah Vance, a spokeswoman for the Heartbeat of Homer, said in a statement released before the votes were counted that the pro-recall group “congratulates everyone for speaking up at the ballot box on this important issue. It is exciting to see such an excellent turnout in this Special Election! We win! Every time we take a stand to hold our leaders accountable, take responsibility for our own actions, and defend truth; we win! Thank you, to everyone who participated in this tumultuous recall; your efforts have not gone unnoticed.

“We want to especially extend our hand to council members Donna Aderhold, David Lewis, and Catriona Reynolds. Your volunteer efforts and commitment to this community are to be commended. This recall has indeed blown a strong wind of change through our sleepy little town, and it is now up to us, as a community, to determine how we proceed. It is our hope that together, we will embrace the change that is now before us, and embark on this journey with great expectation as to whom Homer will become.”

Problems with the vote counting machine dragged the process into the late afternoon on Friday. Some ballots had to be fed through the machine several times before it would count them. Several of absentee ballots were set aside because they were not properly signed, observers said, but there were not enough of those to have changed the outcome.

Aderhold, Lewis, and Reynolds faced a recall after petitioners claimed that they were engaging in political activity that was beyond their scope of office, by trying to make Homer a sanctuary city and by passing a resolution opposing the Dakota Access Pipeline.

The three hired the ACLU to challenge the recall in court, but lost that venture. They have asked the city to pay their legal bills that they owe Heartbeat of Homer for having taken them and the City of Homer to court to stop the election.

Mike Fell, one of the organizers of Heartbeat of Homer, said the group of conservative activists was not discouraged and would continue to work for transparency, honesty and accountability in government: “We’re just getting warmed up,” he said.


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