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This Is Cool! #12054953 05/26/17 Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner.. scenarshooter OP Campfire Tracker OP scenarshooter Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,197 Montana......NE Corner.. My pal Tedthorn sent me this to field test. Great idea Ted! It works really well. It not only keeps the sling from shifting off the shoulder strap, it also keeps it from rotating forward or back. I'll be ordering more for my other hunting packs. Thanks buddy! Luck....is the residue of design...

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12054977 05/26/17 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Pat, Ted did a great job with the sling keeper (aka Frankenstud Slingamarig). I mounted mine on a Nexus Patch, rather than through the shoulder strap: Worked great this past fall... you can see it on the RH shoulder strap: You can read a bit more about it here: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...0893091/2/Pack_Rifle_Sling_Keeper..._Upd “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12055932 05/26/17 Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Sendero_man Campfire Regular Sendero_man Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,789 Buffalo, Wyoming Looks pretty cool ... functional and aids in comfort

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12055938 05/26/17 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 I'd buy one if he ever started selling them.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12055985 05/26/17 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,123 Flagstaff, AZ RedRabbit Campfire Tracker RedRabbit Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,123 Flagstaff, AZ Looks pretty slick. I recall some prior posts on prototypes. Doug's Photo Gallery

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12056008 05/26/17 Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 588 NorthDakota NDHuntr Campfire Regular NDHuntr Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 588 NorthDakota Put me down for one or two. Do or do not, there is no try.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12056505 05/27/17 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,921 PA moosemike Campfire Outfitter moosemike Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 13,921 PA Where's this been all my life?

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12056521 05/27/17 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,158 Western Pennsylvania D donsm70 Campfire Outfitter donsm70 Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,158 Western Pennsylvania I like it. donsm70 Life Member...Safari Club International Life Member...Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Life Member...Keystone Country Elk Alliance Life Member...National Rifle Association

Re: This Is Cool! Brad #12056813 05/27/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Originally Posted by Brad Pat, Ted did a great job with the sling keeper (aka Frankenstud Slingamarig). I mounted mine on a Nexus Patch, rather than through the shoulder strap: Worked great this past fall... you can see it on the RH shoulder strap: Brad, where can I get a nexus patch? A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! smokepole #12056977 05/27/17 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Smoke, here you go: http://www.seattlefabrics.com/sewable_hardware.html http://raggedmountain.com/fabric-repair/strap-accessories “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: This Is Cool! Brad #12057087 05/27/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Thanks Brad. Ted was nice enough to send me one a while back, I need to get off the dime and install it!! Hearing both you and Pat endorse it is all I need to know. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! smokepole #12057203 05/27/17 Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Brad Campfire 'Bwana Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,265 Smoke, mine is somewhere around the 1st Gen Ted made. I believe he's done several upgrades since that have made it better, primarily making it wider. It's a winner. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057471 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Brad, The one you have now is a Gen3 Your new one (Gen5) will hit before elk season Smoke...... yours is a Gen5 Pat's is a Gen4 This is the Gen5 on a Bison Gear and KUIU pack Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057527 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri This picture was taken a couple years ago during testing. The Franlenstud wouldn't allow the rifle to fall !!! The stud pictured is a flat sided stainless steel Gen2. It worked great but needed to get bigger and loose some weight. The Gen4 is low profile SS steel The Gen5 is a larger size but made from aluminum The Gen2 and the Gen4 Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057538 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Gen4 in use on my wifes muzzle loader hunt..... Im the labor/pack mule Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057544 05/27/17 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,586 Northern Ca S sidepass Campfire Tracker sidepass Campfire Tracker S Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,586 Northern Ca Thinking I could use 3. Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057551 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Guys..... Here is the problem.....cost $$$$ These are hand made.....one at a time What is a good price point? About $10 or $11 in materials and shipping plus just over one hour of machine/polish/blast time in my evening after a lpng work day. Would you pay $40 to $50 each ??? Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057576 05/27/17 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Dre Campfire Tracker Dre Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Looks good. Great idea. Hope you have patent pending on this since you posted on line. I wouldn't pay more than 20$ shipped. I already have the safari sling. But sometimes I like it on shoulder like your pics. Combine the two. Last edited by Dre; 05/27/17. All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057582 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri $20 shipped ???? This is why they are not for sale. Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057601 05/27/17 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Dre Campfire Tracker Dre Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya It's a gadget I don't need and have survived with out this long. It is clever and useful, but to me not 50 must have. For a 20 I don't mind getting something and use it once a year or not. Make it out of quality and heavy duty plastic on 3D printer For fraction of the cost for jews like me. and 40-50 aluminum version. Just being honest. Last edited by Dre; 05/27/17. All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057605 05/27/17 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,910 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,910 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado and a cheap bastid, to boot...

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057620 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri I build molds in an injection mold shop....29 years 64 molding presses from 75 all the way up to 750 tons I also have extensive experience in SLA , SLS and 3D printers...no thanks But as all of the above posters that own one of these already know. They have never been sold.....only given away to friends and family Huntsman...... I would drop you one off the next time out but I know that you use a Kifaru gun bearer Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057649 05/27/17 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,910 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,910 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado I appreciate you thinking of me, but you are correct. I prolly wouldn't have much use for one while wearing a pack. And If I had a use for one, I damned sure wouldn't quibble you on price or your choice of materials. Good Lawd knows, I don't want to be lumped in the chintzy cacksuckler class with dre....

Re: This Is Cool! Dre #12057664 05/27/17 Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho FieldGrade Campfire Ranger FieldGrade Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 18,243 North Central Idaho Originally Posted by Dre It's a gadget I don't need and have survived with out this long. It is clever and useful, but to me not 50 must have. For a 20 I don't mind getting something and use it once a year or not. Make it out of quality and heavy duty plastic on 3D printer For fraction of the cost for jews like me. and 40-50 aluminum version. Just being honest. I think it's a dam clever idea. If you don't want/need one just say no thanks and shut your f*ckin pie hole. Who do you think you are....Mohick?

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057666 05/27/17 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming I'd give you $50 for one and I'd use it quite a bit... Public landowner...

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057669 05/27/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Shark tank, campfire style? I think it's worth more than $20. I'd pay more than that for sure. How much more, I'll know after I use it. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057684 05/27/17 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,702 Idaho Lonny Campfire Tracker Lonny Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,702 Idaho Ted, Did you ever think about farming the stud making out to a CNC shop?

Re: This Is Cool! FieldGrade #12057707 05/27/17 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Dre Campfire Tracker Dre Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Originally Posted by FieldGrade Originally Posted by Dre It's a gadget I don't need and have survived with out this long. It is clever and useful, but to me not 50 must have. For a 20 I don't mind getting something and use it once a year or not. Make it out of quality and heavy duty plastic on 3D printer For fraction of the cost for jews like me. and 40-50 aluminum version. Just being honest. I think it's a dam clever idea. If you don't want/need one just say no thanks and shut your f*ckin pie hole. Calm the f down, as well as huntsman. Guy asked I gave him 'my' opinion. The whole reason we invent stuff is to make $. I'm glad you guys are willing to pay and I'm sure there are plenty of other guys who would to, but some aren't. OP, good luck on your venture. All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057713 05/27/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri We have all the disciplines of CNC equipment in the shop I work in covered. Dre...... it's not a "venture" nor did I invent this to make money Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12057749 05/27/17 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Dre Campfire Tracker Dre Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Ok. My bad? At least now we know there are guys here that are willing to pay more than 20. 👍 All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

Re: This Is Cool! Cinch #12057943 05/28/17 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 Originally Posted by Cinch I'd give you $50 for one and I'd use it quite a bit... From the way those who have them talk them up, I'd get quite a bit more use out of one of these, than some other items I've bought for $50.

Re: This Is Cool! Cinch #12058001 05/28/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Kimber7man Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 13,401 Hoosierland, Indiana Originally Posted by Cinch I'd give you $50 for one and I'd use it quite a bit... As would I. Heck I'd buy more and give them to my hunting pards as gifts... “There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD

Re: This Is Cool! Kimber7man #12058026 05/28/17 Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 588 NorthDakota NDHuntr Campfire Regular NDHuntr Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 588 NorthDakota I'd pay $50. Do or do not, there is no try.

Re: This Is Cool! NDHuntr #12058039 05/28/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,464 jennings lodge, oregon Oregonmuley Campfire Tracker Oregonmuley Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,464 jennings lodge, oregon Originally Posted by NDHuntr I'd pay $50. +1, If you ever get around to making some and thats a good price point for you I'd be in for several for sure. "Rather hunt Mule deer than anything else" "Team 7MM-08"

Re: This Is Cool! Oregonmuley #12058065 05/28/17 Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 4,895 Huntsville, Alabama travelingman1 Campfire Tracker travelingman1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 4,895 Huntsville, Alabama If you do think you might want to sell them, you should get a patent. If not, there will be Chinese knock offs Some mornings, it just does not feel worth it to chew through the straps!~

Re: This Is Cool! NDHuntr #12058124 05/28/17 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,626 Eastern Colony of Communist Ca... T The_Yetti Campfire Tracker The_Yetti Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,626 Eastern Colony of Communist Ca... Originally Posted by NDHuntr I'd pay $50. Same here.

Re: This Is Cool! travelingman1 #12058131 05/28/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Originally Posted by travelingman1 If you do think you might want to sell them, you should get a patent. If not, there will be Chinese knock offs Flankenstor? A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12058148 05/28/17 Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,058 Heart of Tennessee, Plateau of... ColdCase1984 Campfire Tracker ColdCase1984 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,058 Heart of Tennessee, Plateau of... This is a great idea. I'd pay $50 for one. In fact may try making one to mount on shoulder of turkey vests or non-down coats. Been frustrated with sling slippage since I was a boy. �When in doubt, I whip it out.� Uncle Ted

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12058163 05/28/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri A giant button was the military answer for sling slip over 150 years ago Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12058184 05/28/17 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,601 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,601 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas Originally Posted by tedthorn A giant button was the military answer for sling slip over 150 years ago There was also a sewn on shoulder pad (not a shoulder tab or épaulette) but an actual round sewn on pad, at the top Of sleeve seam. About 3" long and 3/4" to 1" in diameter on some uniforms even up until The Great War. Last edited by kaywoodie; 05/28/17. Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12059688 05/29/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri I wanted to add.... As I have stated that I typically only give these away to friends and family..... There is at least one jackass around here who will never get one by my hand for any price He knows who he is Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12060682 05/29/17 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,748 P prm Campfire Outfitter prm Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,748 Those look great. Looks like a great design. If you decide to sell I would put one to use. Been looking for a solution. Last edited by prm; 05/29/17.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12061081 05/29/17 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,090 South Carolina MadMooner Campfire Ranger MadMooner Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 25,090 South Carolina Pretty damn slick! “Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12061592 05/30/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Ok If there is enough interest I might make a run of these Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12062013 05/30/17 Joined: May 2017 Posts: 1,048 Justahunter Campfire Regular Justahunter Campfire Regular Joined: May 2017 Posts: 1,048 I'm a lucky owner and field tester of one of these little fellas and I tell you right now I'll wouldn't sell mine for $500.. One of the most useful pieces of equipment I've incorporated into my gear, ever... Todd

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12062085 05/30/17 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 152 H HUNTER1309 Campfire Member HUNTER1309 Campfire Member H Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 152 If you decide to do a run count me in for a couple. It looks handy as H#@L David

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12062091 05/30/17 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country I think, based on the information you provided regarding production time and material costs, $50 would not be out of line. If it were worth it to you, you could manufacture a few at a time and list them. If they sell, it's worth your while, if not, you haven't wasted a lot of time. You'll just have to endure the normal morons who claim manufacturers are greedy and price gouging, etc. whenever something sells for more than they are willing to pay. A basic high school course providing a rudimentary understanding of economics should be mandatory. _________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12062177 05/30/17 Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 603 C chamois Campfire Regular chamois Campfire Regular C Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 603 I would order two if the become available.

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12062336 05/30/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Originally Posted by tedthorn There is at least one jackass around here who will never get one by my hand for any price He knows who he is Aw, c'mon Ted, I said please and everything. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12062365 05/30/17 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio kellory Campfire Outfitter kellory Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio Looks interesting. Nice design, but I think i could lathe cut one from aluminium round bar, drill and tap the center to 1/4x20, and use a flathead elevator bolt for a couple of bucks in material, and a half hour in time. I'm not saying that it isn't worth $50.00 as a finished shipped product. I'm saying I could fabricate something very close, rather easily. (With access to a lathe) Good luck with this project sir. I hope you do well with it. An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool. the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: This Is Cool! smokepole #12062738 05/30/17 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Dre Campfire Tracker Dre Campfire Tracker Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 3,593 Nonya Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by tedthorn There is at least one jackass around here who will never get one by my hand for any price He knows who he is Aw, c'mon Ted, I said please and everything. Oh good, for a second there I though he was talking about me. LOL All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12062758 05/30/17 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 281 South Dakota B Benben Campfire Member Benben Campfire Member B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 281 South Dakota I'd pay $50 if a run is made. Mike

Re: This Is Cool! smokepole #12062789 05/30/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by tedthorn There is at least one jackass around here who will never get one by my hand for any price He knows who he is Aw, c'mon Ted, I said please and everything. Funny...... It's definitely not you Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! kellory #12063660 05/31/17 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,022 Colorado Originally Posted by kellory Looks interesting. Nice design, but I think i could lathe cut one from aluminium round bar, drill and tap the center to 1/4x20, and use a flathead elevator bolt for a couple of bucks in material, and a half hour in time. I'm not saying that it isn't worth $50.00 as a finished shipped product. I'm saying I could fabricate something very close, rather easily. (With access to a lathe) Good luck with this project sir. I hope you do well with it. Looking at it that way, if it took a half hour of my time just to make one, $50/per seems about right, once you factor in everything else that goes into it. Setting up your shop, ordering materials, communicating with customers, taking orders, shipping, and other stuff I left out. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12063707 05/31/17 Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 3,254 Columbia, South Carolina S Sasha_and_Abby Campfire Tracker Sasha_and_Abby Campfire Tracker S Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 3,254 Columbia, South Carolina Cool idea... an answer in search of a problem for me though. I PREFER to keep my hand ON my sling so I can control the firearm OR I can spin it off of my shoulder. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go where they went" Will Rogers

Re: This Is Cool! smokepole #12064169 05/31/17 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio kellory Campfire Outfitter kellory Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by kellory Looks interesting. Nice design, but I think i could lathe cut one from aluminium round bar, drill and tap the center to 1/4x20, and use a flathead elevator bolt for a couple of bucks in material, and a half hour in time. I'm not saying that it isn't worth $50.00 as a finished shipped product. I'm saying I could fabricate something very close, rather easily. (With access to a lathe) Good luck with this project sir. I hope you do well with it. Looking at it that way, if it took a half hour of my time just to make one, $50/per seems about right, once you factor in everything else that goes into it. Setting up your shop, ordering materials, communicating with customers, taking orders, shipping, and other stuff I left out. Assuming I had the rod stick in hand, and no restrictions on the use of the lathe, most of that time is set up. I could drill the rod, then swap to the tap, then use the cutter and form the bobbin, all on the lathe. The second piece would already be drilled and tapped, so cutting is just minutes. Would have to swap drill and tap about every 2-3 pieces, depending on the length of the tap. I'm not running down the product, just suggesting an alternative method, that might be cost effective. An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool. the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: This Is Cool! kellory #12064375 05/31/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by kellory Originally Posted by smokepole Originally Posted by kellory Looks interesting. Nice design, but I think i could lathe cut one from aluminium round bar, drill and tap the center to 1/4x20, and use a flathead elevator bolt for a couple of bucks in material, and a half hour in time. I'm not saying that it isn't worth $50.00 as a finished shipped product. I'm saying I could fabricate something very close, rather easily. (With access to a lathe) Good luck with this project sir. I hope you do well with it. Looking at it that way, if it took a half hour of my time just to make one, $50/per seems about right, once you factor in everything else that goes into it. Setting up your shop, ordering materials, communicating with customers, taking orders, shipping, and other stuff I left out. Assuming I had the rod stick in hand, and no restrictions on the use of the lathe, most of that time is set up. I could drill the rod, then swap to the tap, then use the cutter and form the bobbin, all on the lathe. The second piece would already be drilled and tapped, so cutting is just minutes. Would have to swap drill and tap about every 2-3 pieces, depending on the length of the tap. I'm not running down the product, just suggesting an alternative method, that might be cost effective. I am a Journyman Injection Mold Maker of just over 29 years with a 2 year Tech degree in Machine Tool Technology in front of that so I know a little bit about fast and efficient machining using almost all forms of machining equipment. I appreciate the steps of procedure you have laid out in the above but you leave off several to reach the final finished products that are pictured in this thread. With that being said..... By all means I urge anyone willing to diy to please do so. This really is an easy project if you have the bar stock, lathe, tooling and some machining skills. Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! Sasha_and_Abby #12064500 05/31/17 Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 O Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger Oldelkhunter Campfire Ranger O Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 29,383 Originally Posted by Sasha_and_Abby Cool idea... an answer in search of a problem for me though. I PREFER to keep my hand ON my sling so I can control the firearm OR I can spin it off of my shoulder. Walk around for a week with a rifle slung around your shoulder and tell me how that works out for you. I would gladly pay 50 for something that makes life a little less miserable

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12064509 05/31/17 Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,861 Hi-Line SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana SamOlson Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 43,861 Hi-Line I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night but for the real cheapskates you could just take a carriage bolt, 2-3 washers and 3 nuts and be done. Of course it wouldn't look nearly as nice but it would function the same.

Re: This Is Cool! SamOlson #12064602 05/31/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by SamOlson I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night but for the real cheapskates you could just take a carriage bolt, 2-3 washers and 3 nuts and be done. Of course it wouldn't look nearly as nice but it would function the same. Not to mention spare parts for your truck or UTV.......laffin Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12064633 05/31/17 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 829 MasterBlaster Campfire Regular MasterBlaster Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 829 If you ever decide to do a run of them I'd buy three or four.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12064647 05/31/17 Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou... kingston Campfire 'Bwana kingston Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 32,130 Somewhere between lost and fou... Sometimes referred to,as bachelor buttons. https://www.loggingsupply.com/shop/bucksaw-logger-buttons/ Originally Posted by 16penny If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty

Re: This Is Cool! kingston #12064672 05/31/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by kingston Sometimes referred to,as bachelor buttons. https://www.loggingsupply.com/shop/bucksaw-logger-buttons/ To small...... We've tested those There are several reasons we are at the current design......Gen5 Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12065309 06/01/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri This is the Generation #1 It was a terrible failure right out of the gate during indoor testing..... Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12065323 06/01/17 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio kellory Campfire Outfitter kellory Campfire Outfitter Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 8,109 Ohio Yeah, I can see that. Without the base plate, it would just roll over, and likely tear the tapered head screw through the strap. Needs both the baseplate, and the backer to stay stable and not tear what it is mounted to. An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool. the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12126577 07/04/17 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming Got my order in and they look great! Very well made product... I'm anxious to try them out when I get off this hitch... Public landowner...

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12127209 07/04/17 Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,730 Raton NM gonzaga Campfire Regular gonzaga Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,730 Raton NM Cinch, Forward me the buying info if you can. One of these would be handy as heck while humping it out to those long coyote stands way off the road. Great idea Ted, nice to see that you're willing to share your ideas with us. Keep up the good work and [bleep] them naysayers man. You didn't ask them their opinions or push the product on anyone. Guys that actually get out there and hunt can see the usefulness of this idea.

Re: This Is Cool! gonzaga #12127317 07/04/17 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,083 Directly from tedthorn. I'm working up the gumption to stick a hot nail through my shoulder strap to mount it.

Re: This Is Cool! gonzaga #12127588 07/04/17 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming Originally Posted by gonzaga Cinch, Forward me the buying info if you can. One of these would be handy as heck while humping it out to those long coyote stands way off the road. Great idea Ted, nice to see that you're willing to share your ideas with us. Keep up the good work and [bleep] them naysayers man. You didn't ask them their opinions or push the product on anyone. Guys that actually get out there and hunt can see the usefulness of this idea. Sent you a PM Gonzo... Public landowner...

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12127606 07/04/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Photobucket has this thread in a mess Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12183890 08/02/17 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 24 C cowhand1972 New Member cowhand1972 New Member C Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 24 I'd sure like a couple, look really handy. Somebody tell me where to send my money...

Re: This Is Cool! cowhand1972 #12184789 08/03/17 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming C Cinch Campfire Regular Cinch Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,621 Wyoming Originally Posted by cowhand1972 I'd sure like a couple, look really handy. Somebody tell me where to send my money... Just send Ted a message and he will take care of you in short order... Public landowner...

Re: This Is Cool! NDHuntr #12185376 08/03/17 Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 354 N Central Wa.State. S ScottyO Campfire Member ScottyO Campfire Member S Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 354 N Central Wa.State. Count me in for 250.00 just let me know when n where to pay....ScottyO.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12203853 08/12/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri ScottyO Good news........ They are less expensive these days I am currently making these on a CNC lathe and was able to decrease my cost by 20% The bead blasted bare aluminum studs are now $40 shipped to any USA state. Powder coated ones are $45 each and will be offered in tan and olive as there is not enough interest in black I also accept PayPal plus the fee.......$1.50 Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12204864 08/13/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12205442 08/13/17 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah Azar Campfire Regular Azar Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah Very cool. It's nice to see a campfire venture succeed. “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear

Re: This Is Cool! Azar #12207406 08/14/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by Azar Very cool. It's nice to see a campfire venture succeed. It's cool to see them take off Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12207490 08/14/17 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,626 Eastern Colony of Communist Ca... T The_Yetti Campfire Tracker The_Yetti Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,626 Eastern Colony of Communist Ca... Finally installed mine, last weekend, and this weekend took it off to do the locktite. I did some hiking around with it and I am sold on this! With some adjustments to my sling and how my rifle rests on my pack, with the slingamarig added it pretty much locks my rifle into place. very easy to traverse over rough terrain and do it all hands free without worrying about my rifle. If anyone is on the fence, order it, you won't be disappointed. I'll be ordering some more soon for family and my other pack.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12210233 08/15/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Thanks for the review Brent Yes.....it is a simple, lightweight devise......but this is by design After 2 years of making tweeks I think we hit it just about right. The button is just big enough to to do it's job but small enough to stay out of the way. The undercut allows more than enough bite to work with even thick, wide slings. A misconception is that the washer will hurt you during use. To clear this up....the rear washer sinks into the padding of the pack straps so deeply it is never noticed even with a heavy load. Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12210992 08/16/17 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by tedthorn Dre...... it's not a "venture" nor did I invent this to make money. Exactly. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: This Is Cool! Whttail_in_MT #12210998 08/16/17 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Directly from tedthorn. I'm working up the gumption to stick a hot nail through my shoulder strap to mount it. So, where is the EXACT spot for mounting if you're gonna poke a hole in your $200 + backpack? "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12211006 08/16/17 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by tedthorn Photobucket has this thread in a mess P-bucket is a zero looking for a minus. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: This Is Cool! Reloder28 #12211243 08/16/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by Reloder28 Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Directly from tedthorn. I'm working up the gumption to stick a hot nail through my shoulder strap to mount it. So, where is the EXACT spot for mounting if you're gonna poke a hole in your $200 + backpack? The collarbone area Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #12211372 08/16/17 Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,103 George_De_Vries_3rd Campfire Ranger George_De_Vries_3rd Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 17,103 Ted-, it's an imaginative idea and I always admire skills such as yours. It fits a definite need. Years ago, Browning made a high end coat that had a "pebbled-textured" rubber patch on the shoulder top to provide texture and friction to hold the sling in place. I don't know if they still do. It worked better than the slick, synthetic material for holding your sling in place which it didn't and you didn't have to be wearing a pack -- there's another idea. 😉

Re: This Is Cool! George_De_Vries_3rd #12211992 08/16/17 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx R Reloder28 Campfire Ranger Reloder28 Campfire Ranger R Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 20,886 Deer Park, Tx Originally Posted by George_De_Vries_3rd Years ago, Browning made a high end coat that had a "pebbled-textured" rubber patch on the shoulder top to provide texture and friction to hold the sling in place I have two of them. One of them is the original Duck Commander apparel from Browning which was a long time before they became widely known. "I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12215867 08/18/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri I just finished the second run of studs. I now have a stock of the "gray" bead blasted aluminum studs Studs for powdercoat have been delivered to the coating house and should be done soon. Ted Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12253775 09/06/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Powdercoated Sling Studs are now available for shipment Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12259167 09/08/17 Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,464 G gremcat Campfire Regular gremcat Campfire Regular G Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,464 I like the idea. Haven't found time to even mountbthe scopes on my last two customs or I would find a coat to put one on. To respond to Dre, I invent things a lot of times because they are needed or need to be invented. Haven't gotten "paid" persae for any designs. Have gained respect of Collegues, made lives and jobs easier, and been blessed with more opportunities than I deserve. If it was only money a lot of things wouldn't exist. In fact, I am pretty certain the majority of Start-Ups aren't close to profitable for the first 4-5 years. I get the impression Ted does these because he saw a need, likes the intellectual stimulation, and likes seeing his design being used by his Friends. Pretty sure 20 or 50 dollars he isn't retiring. I get the impression he isn't the retiring type anyway.

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12260582 09/09/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Thanks for the kind words gremcat. Havn't tried a Feankenstud Slingamarig Sling on a coat but It probably would work as long as the zipper was pulled up high enough. Tan Olive and bead blasted aluminum Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12260591 09/09/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri More zero cost low end modeling Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #12277354 09/17/17 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Like the Frankenstud on Facebook Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #13046242 08/08/18 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Take a look at your gear How much of it is made in the USA? How much of it is made of all metal and not plastic? The Frankenstud Sling Keeper It forever ends the problem of a slung rifle slipping or falling off your shoulder Made in the USA of solid 6061 Aircraft Aluminum it tips the scale at less then one ounce and is held in place with a single stainless steel screw and carries a lifetime no BS replacement guarantee If you ever break your Frankenstud Sling Keeper I will replace it free of charge no questions asked $45 shipped to anywhere in the USA and we also ship international for a small additional fee PayPal, Checks or Money Orders accepted Olive, Tan, Gray or Pink or webbing applied for $1 more Blaze Orange coming back this fall but taking orders www.paypal.me/frankenstud The Frankenstud Sling Keeper is a lifetime purchase. Ted Thornburgh Sr Thin Air Creations 2901 W Old Oaks Rd Poplar Bluff MO 63901 Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #13046588 08/08/18 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 281 South Dakota B Benben Campfire Member Benben Campfire Member B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 281 South Dakota Love mine. Wish someone had developed this years ago. Mike

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #13047246 08/09/18 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah Azar Campfire Regular Azar Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah I'm surprised you don't have black as a color option as of yet. The latest version looks great. I think I'm going to need one for this fall... “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear

Re: This Is Cool! Azar #13048721 08/09/18 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri Originally Posted by Azar I'm surprised you don't have black as a color option as of yet. The latest version looks great. I think I'm going to need one for this fall... Well....... I have yet to get a request for a black stud...... Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #13049548 08/10/18 Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah Azar Campfire Regular Azar Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,697 Utah I don't think my request would include the words: "I'll like to buy a black stud off of you." “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” ― Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Man's Fear

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #13051351 08/11/18 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,285 MA 308ld Campfire Regular 308ld Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,285 MA This link does not work for me. It brings up a blank page? www.paypal.me/frankenstud Ed

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #13052062 08/11/18 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri I clicked it and my PayPal page came up Try this one https://www.paypal.me/frankenstud Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #13053956 08/12/18 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,285 MA 308ld Campfire Regular 308ld Campfire Regular Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,285 MA Originally Posted by tedthorn I clicked it and my PayPal page came up Try this one https://www.paypal.me/frankenstud Nope.... The "https://www.paypal.me/frankenstud" shows as the address, but the page is blank for both links. Must be my machine? Ed

Re: This Is Cool! scenarshooter #13054080 08/12/18 Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri tedthorn Campfire Outfitter tedthorn Campfire Outfitter Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 10,826 South East Missouri It must be on your end. It seems to working fine for others Maker of the Frankenstud Sling Keeper

Re: This Is Cool! tedthorn #13066880 08/17/18 Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Beaver10 Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 23,506 Oregon Got my Frankenstud(s) this week...Stuck one on my main pack to try it out. It’s awesome! Not having to constantly readjust my rifle back on my shoulder will be nice. Thanks, Ted and K. 😎 Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”