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I've been looking at these. They seems to be priced at $120.00 everywhere. Has anyone tried this one? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Are there better options? The most I can spend is about $150.00. Any other options out there in that price range that would make a good choice? The platform is an entry level PSA lower mated with one of their uppers. It's a flattop 16" bbl. with sights mounted.

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I don't know it might be better to just use iron sights, you could completely waste $150.00 getting something that might not ever work as intended, or save a few more months and buy an swfa 1-4 classic, which is not the best optically but actually works and is dependable as a sighting device.


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Thanks for the advice, but the budget's pretty firm at $150.00.


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Back when I was a kid, I was using cheap scopes on my 22's and always had trouble with them. Once I bought a fixed 4x Leupold my troubles went away.

I'd try looking for a better known scope than to take a chance on a chinese import. Look in the classifides or maybe even a Leupold Rifleman series.

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I had a Bushnell - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/3...-drop-zone-223-bdc-reticle-matte#details at one point that wasn't bad. Have since upgraded to a Burris.

With the $10 off at Midway and 25% rebate on the bushnell puts you under the $150 if you can wait to get the rebate back. Might be able to shop some more and find a better price somewhere else.


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Thanks for the lead, texas hawg. I'll check those out.


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Primary Arms doesn't sell junk. If their name is on it, it's inexpensive; it's no cheap. It will be a decent competent scope. No it won't be military grade indestructible, but you can expect it will be clear and will hold zero.

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I think I'd be more inclined to spend $150 on a Primary Arms than a cheap Bushnell, IMO. Primary Arms has a pretty good reputation for their optics lately, within their price point anyway. Some of that Bushnell stuff is "blister pack at WalMart" quality.

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I'm sorry, PA is a good company to do business with but their chinese imported optics line is still chinese at best.

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Originally Posted by TWR
I'm sorry, PA is a good company to do business with but their chinese imported optics line is still chinese at best.

Buy what you like but don't pass it off for just as good as...


And what exactly do you think the cheap Bushnell stuff is?

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I've got a few Bushnell Elites that are great scopes and certainly not blister pack at Walmart quality. I'd put them up against a lot of other scopes for wet conditions or twilight. Just sayin.

If it were me (and it isn't), I'd probably just wait until I could pony up for a Burris or Leupold.

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Half the "American" stuff is probably made in China.
I've used that Primary scope and it works well as a "red dot" up close 1x - it has an illuminated reticle unlike the Bushnell mentioned. It's also pretty good as a magnified sight.



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I'm sorry, PA is a good company to do business with but their chinese imported optics line is still chinese at best.

Buy what you like but don't pass it off for just as good as...


And what exactly do you think the cheap Bushnell stuff is?


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
I've got a few Bushnell Elites that are great scopes and certainly not blister pack at Walmart quality. I'd put them up against a lot of other scopes for wet conditions or twilight. Just sayin.


Which is why I said "cheap Bushnell". Your Elites sure didn't cost $150 did they, so why bring them up here?

Busnell, Vortex, and a whole bunch of other scope companies are in the same boat here, with really cheap stuff at the low end and some decent options at the high end. The high end stuff doesn't make the cheap stuff any better, but it does confuse some into thinking the whole brand means top quality, apparently.

If the OP wants to avoid cheap Chinese stuff for $150, his only real option is a decent used scope like a Leupold VX-II or something similar.

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What are you REALLY going to use it for and how often will you use it?


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What are you REALLY going to use it for and how often will you use it?

It's an entry level Ar. My finances dictate an entry level scope. My older eyes really prefer a scope. 50 yards, or so, I"m still okay with battle sights, but much farther out than that gets a little sporty. I like the idea of a lower power variable. I may get a wild hair and try this in deer season some time, so like the idea of a 1x to 4x as opposed to a red dot. I also would like to be able to see the benefit of the tighter groups a 4X scope offers. I've hunted with 4X glass for decades and never had problems. Part of it's cosmetics too-I like the look of the AR-styled scopes on these weapons. As for my deer hunting, with this rifle, it would be in the woods, and the shots would be less than 100 yards. This would be a "second deer" proposition, as I have a really good spot I always will hunt on opening day that sits on a wide trail where shots can range out to 200 yards. I always carry either my 300 Savage or an '06 Mauser on the first day.


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Just buy the primary Arms. It's perfect for what you want.



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I'd imagine the PA 1-4 would suit you just fine.


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Thanks Bluedreaux.


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