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But I thought someone called yours a Toklat?!?!  Someone may have. I'm just happy I managed to put a grizzly hunt in my life. Guy
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But I thought someone called yours a Toklat?!?! Someone may have. I'm just happy I managed to put a grizzly hunt in my life. Guy I understand completely! Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Your bear does not look young and the dark coat is typical. It is an exceptional bear!
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l'll be darned. I thought "toklat" was a blondish colored grizzly. Lighter colored than mine. Shows ya what I know!  Guy
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l'll be darned. I thought "toklat" was a blondish colored grizzly. Lighter colored than mine. Shows ya what I know! Guy Few true Toklats are not young bears IME and from what I have always heard. Almost all darken significantly as they age. But Toklats are gorgeous bears.
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Have not heard that before.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Never, ever, heard that. Toklat is a color faze. Light body dark legs. http://www.scirecordbook.org/common-grizzly-bear/
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Absolutely correct, the Toklat is a color phase, however, as bears age they almost always darken. Toklats of age are very unusual.
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Have not heard that before. Now you have...
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Have not heard that before. Me neither. I always thought a Toklat was a Toklat and a young bear was a cub. 😉
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Have not heard that before. Me neither. I always thought a Toklat was a Toklat and a young bear was a cub. 😉 Was being a bit TIC with the statement, but it means about that to most that know bears.
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Toklat is most commonly a way to say "young bear." Have not heard that before. Now you have... That part is true.
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I know you were TIC Sitka you have a wry sense of humor. 👍
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I know you were TIC Sitka you have a wry sense of humor. 👍 Yup, like my corned moose on wry...
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Outstanding Guy! Did you use a handload? To me it is always much more gratifying using ammo I made.
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That's outstanding, congratulations!
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Outstanding Guy! Did you use a handload? To me it is always much more gratifying using ammo I made. Yes, of course! 200 gr Nosler Partition over H4350 for a bit over 2600 fps with rather amazing accuracy. Documented some of my testing over on Handoads over the past six months or so. Regards, Guy
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I'm gonna say a bear aging has little to do with their color. Anytime I hear "facts" about bears I can't believe them since we know almost nothing about what happens to their hair color over the years given that they change their hair every year. Seen blond ten foot Kodiak boars and seen dark chocolate tennfooters. Seen dark cubs and light Cubs, seen Cubs that were a mix. Toklat is just a name given to the color phase of blond grizzly with dark legs.
Unless it's a yeti, then they change color as they age.....and that's a fact!
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Must suck for brown bears to be born light colored because almost all die young... only possible explanation since I see so many light cubs and almost no adults.
And I only get to base this on thousands of personal sightings... and the anecdotal evidence of many others...
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Someday I hope my personal experience has some Internet forum value as well.....lol
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I understand your pain.
Considering I have hunted brown bears with a pretty big bunch of guys here at the fire; including the site owner, and have met and fished or hunted with well over 100 folks from here at the fire; have posted photos of well over a dozen bears in the deconstruction phase; and quite a bit more, I do not need "internet forum value" on which to base my thoughts and experiences.
Photos and stories are easy to find and should still be available in their entirety. Feel free to read some and see if you really want to be flippant...
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