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You may be right on the 20 foot root depth lol. Long term it is their best bet if they can get deep enough. Those watering bags look really cool. May try a few of those out. Trying to keep them planted within easy hose distance of the house but the bags would open things up for me.

There is probably a reason I don't see any growing around here but I am up for an attempt anyway. After living in MO, IN, IL, and OH, I do miss the big ole oak trees being around.

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Checked them yesterday, and they are from 14"-18" tall already. I imagine I had 85-90% success with the acorns I planted numbering probably 300. It is going to be epic.


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Congrats on the success. It will be epic if they all make it.

On another note, the Nativ Nurseries/Mossy Oak seedlings arrived via UPS. Look super healthy. If they don't make it, it is due to my climate or me. I'd recommend them if anyone needs oak seedlings.

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30338 They will be under a lot less stress if you plant them late winter/early spring next year... if you don't get a lot of water on them soon after you put them in the ground, they will become stressed.


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Planted and will water every other day. Fingers crossed.

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Originally Posted by Sasha_and_Abby
Checked them yesterday, and they are from 14"-18" tall already. I imagine I had 85-90% success with the acorns I planted numbering probably 300. It is going to be epic.
Did you tube or cage them? Deer seem to LOVE to chew on oak seedlings...

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Checked them yesterday, and they are from 14"-18" tall already. I imagine I had 85-90% success with the acorns I planted numbering probably 300. It is going to be epic.
Did you tube or cage them? Deer seem to LOVE to chew on oak seedlings...

Mine are completely enclosed in heavy tomato cages and chicken wire. @30 of them.


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I tubed about 50 saplings in December. I planted several hundred acorns that are thriving. Our deer have so much to eat that is better than trees, they leave them alone


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I have planted 100s maybe 1000's of trees and what I found out that really helps is inoculating the roots with Mycoryzhia. Here is one source:
http://www.fungi.com/

Especial here in Texas we will typically see 90% die off of un-irrigated saplings planted. With the fungi and a little rain I have gotten success rates of 50-100%.
I water it in to buckets of saplings in tubes and wait till I can see the fungi before planting. Many of the State Forresters have gone to this so I don't think it is Voodoo it's been proven too many times.

The Fungi is adaptable but best to get from local sources. The ones with funky names like dead mans toe or dog turd mushroom are the Glamaris species you want.


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Originally Posted by 1minute
Along the same lines, has anyone had any luck with chestnuts? If so please offer up the pre-plant treatments. Chinese, as I know our American chestnut is toast.


Sending you a PM. We are planting American Chestnut "mother trees" right now at our camp. The American Chestnut Foundation https://www.acf.org/ is developing a blight resistant strain that they will graft to our seedlings later on.

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Originally Posted by kellory
I want to find a good source for some White oaks. That is deer candy. Also, easier to grow than red oaks, which require 1000hrs at @40° half in/half out of the ground, on thier side, to germinate. And that is after the float test. White oaks germinate just about as soon as the acorn stops bouncing.....

Sawtooth oaks are white oaks. I am told that all oaks are either white oak or red oak with different varieties in each class. Sawtooth seems very hardy. Louisiana Dept. of Agriculture and Forestry sell seedlings in the winter. Not sure if they sell out of state.


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I want to find a good source for some White oaks. That is deer candy. Also, easier to grow than red oaks, which require 1000hrs at @40° half in/half out of the ground, on thier side, to germinate. And that is after the float test. White oaks germinate just about as soon as the acorn stops bouncing.....

Sawtooth oaks are white oaks. I am told that all oaks are either white oak or red oak with different varieties in each class. Sawtooth seems very hardy. Louisiana Dept. of Agriculture and Forestry sell seedlings in the winter. Not sure if they sell out of state.

Thank you, but there are more than 60 variety of oaks in North America, and most of them can be divided into red oaks and white oaks. (Whites germinate in one year, reds in two years).

https://owlcation.com/stem/Types-of-Oak-Trees-with-pictures-of-bark


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If you want another fast growing oak, try the Nuttall oak. They like wet areas such as lowlands or river bottoms that floor. I have 2 in my yard, planted 4 years ago and one is 8ft tall. The other is only 4ft thanks to the deer eating it! Most usfs offices have a source of all kinds of tree saplings.








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OK - the Sawtooth acorns are just starting to fall hard now. Several of you had asked me by pm, to remind you about picking up some acorns to plant. I picked up a few gallons of acorns in 15 minutes and am going to repeat the process... just one way we can give back.

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Originally Posted by Sasha_and_Abby
OK - the Sawtooth acorns are just starting to fall hard now. Several of you had asked me by pm, to remind you about picking up some acorns to plant. I picked up a few gallons of acorns in 15 minutes and am going to repeat the process... just one way we can give back.


sawtooth oaks, aka japanese redoaks in some circles are a wonderful source of food for wildlife. i've grown them out and about for years. a pasture planted full of them will fatten quite a hog herd. there's a much smaller variety of the same species that are geared specifically for a turkey food source.

some people raise an eyebrow because they're not a native species. that fact has never really bothered me.


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Hmmm something for my Brother to do when the Pine Plantation behind his house gets cleared by Irma early next week. He has been talking about planting sawtooth oaks for a while as well as putting out a food plot or two.

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Live oaks grow very fast here in Texas. Lots of acorns.

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Along the same lines, has anyone had any luck with chestnuts? If so please offer up the pre-plant treatments. Chinese, as I know our American chestnut is toast.
Look up Dunstan chestnuts. They are a popular variety folks are planting.

Though probably of mostly local interest, the USFS is trying to get some chestnuts back on the landscape. They are hybrids. I hope to check out a few of these project areas this fall/winter.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2011/05/13/american-chestnut-trees-return-hoosier-national-forest


The Blandy farm, home of the VA State Arboretum, has a chesnut recovery program. They cross Chinese with American, then cross the strongest to American again, hoping for a mostly American, blight-resistant strain. The hybrids live long enough to put out some nuts, then get sick and croak. We used to collect a few there every year, but now they have signs up. No matter, my vet has a bunch of Chinese trees and lets my Yellow Peril collect all she wants. Got a bunch yesterday, in fact, after an appointment.

My next-door neighbor has a sawtooth tree, and it grew pretty big pretty fast. Got some funky acorns, too.


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