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Lyman 56S or 57S.. put a blank in the rear sight slot.

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Went ahead and ordered the Lyman 16A, will replace and see if I have any better luck. Would like to get the irons at least usable before I start experimenting with peeps.

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This is what your front sight should look like. Note the height:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Savage-Mode...6?hash=item51f87a3dfe:g:edgAAOSwfpVZHK0g

I'd say your front sight needs about another 1/8" of height just to get in the ball park.

If your front sight is not tall enough you might have the same problem with a tang sight not adjusting low enough.

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So is there something wrong with my front sight? Should I replace it? How has is it to replace the front?

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I can't tell what your front sight looks like from the picture. Measure your sight and we can go from there.

You either raise the front or lower the rear. The rear sight looks correct but the photo is not good enough to verify.

Front and rear both can be removed (out to the right). If one of them is not the correct sight I would replace it. But without more info (measurement/photos) I can't tell.


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http://s36.photobucket.com/user/1950OP/media/IMG_1109_zpsjqrlmrx3.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Here is a different, better photo of my current front sight. Can I measure on the rifle? Or do I have to to remove to measure? What's the preferred way to measure with the dial calipers?

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I'm sorry picture not wanting to work. But anyways, about the measuring, I would love more info.

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New Guy.

before you start changing sights - little info. You never said what your sight picture is.... Using the sights you have, the front bead should be at the very bottom of the rear sight "V" notch - not even with the top of the "V" ears. If you using the top of the "V" technique that would easily account for 8" high at 50 yard line. If this is the case then the fix is easy - use the rear sight correctly.

I hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by medved404
New Guy.

before you start changing sights - little info. You never said what your sight picture is.... Using the sights you have, the front bead should be at the very bottom of the rear sight "V" notch - not even with the top of the "V" ears. If you using the top of the "V" technique that would easily account for 8" high at 50 yard line. If this is the case then the fix is easy - use the rear sight correctly.

I hope this helps.

Good luck, medved404

Fifty some years ago, my dad taught me that when you run out of elevation adjustment, use "course" and "fine" front bead in the sight picture to further adjust the bullet strike. Using a "course" bead (where you see all of the bead through the rear sight) will always strike higher than using a "fine" bead (where you only see the top portion of the bead through the sights).


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Update: Ordered the front sight recommended. It arrived today. A big difference can be seen! Will be swapping the front and rears out soon. Here is a picture of the difference, don't even have to have the front sight removed it's so obvious. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/1950OP/IMG_1131_zpsflareozh.jpg Thank you all for the advice.

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My EG shoots that high with the 150 grain load. I can't lower the rear sight anymore. Luckily Federal's 180 grain load shoots where I want it too.I don't know how effective that load will be on deer.

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I am just not a fan of scopes, and just do not like the way they look on old lever guns. If I have to, I will, but I am one of those weird people that loves shooting with iron sights.

Same here. I think 99's look stupid with scopes.

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I imagine the 180 grain will work just fine on a deer. My R was shooting 8-10" high (I estimate) at 50 yards, if not a little more. The front sight appears to have been way too short, an observant forum member saw how low it sat in one of my pictures. I'm going to swap the front out, and mic the differences in height for reference. Also going to install a Lyman folder while I am at it, as I plan to install a Marble peep on the tang if all goes well with the irons.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
My EG shoots that high with the 150 grain load. I can't lower the rear sight anymore. Luckily Federal's 180 grain load shoots where I want it too.I don't know how effective that load will be on deer.

dead right there.


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Originally Posted by 1950OP
Update: Ordered the front sight recommended. It arrived today. A big difference can be seen! Will be swapping the front and rears out soon. Here is a picture of the difference, don't even have to have the front sight removed it's so obvious. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/1950OP/IMG_1131_zpsflareozh.jpg Thank you all for the advice.



Where did you get the replacement? You were fortunate to find a correct Savage sight.

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Ebay. I bought the one Rick99 linked to and told me that "This is what your Sight should look like".

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Originally Posted by moosemike
My EG shoots that high with the 150 grain load. I can't lower the rear sight anymore. Luckily Federal's 180 grain load shoots where I want it too.I don't know how effective that load will be on deer.

dead right there.

Good. I was worried it would be too toughly constructed for quick kills.

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Well, after both the front sight and the rear sight arrived, I installed a vise on my workbench, and replaced the sights. Front was no problem, rear was messy, and had to be cut out with a dremel. The Lyman 16A drove in right to left, the opposite of the factory. Changing the sights was frustrating, to say the least. However, I got them changed out. Got out to the range today, ammunition was Hornaday SST 150 gr. Distance was approx 50 yards, my backup sight distance (I will twin zero with a marble tang). The first few I was really trying, the rest, well, I was so thrilled to see it work I was just pumping the lever away and having fun with Arthur's rifle. The first picture is the Lyman rear installed, the second is the front that was on and my new sight in the right, (old, 0.361", 0.461") and the third is the group from today. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/1950OP/IMG_1181_zps8pvuc7wa.jpg

A very big thanks to the forum for all the help, I could not have done it without you!!!!

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