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I've not seen any of the tacticool 30-30's in the wild yet. 30-30 seems to be dying out in general around here. The old farts are dying off and the sons are generally not carrying them anymore.

I did see a Sixties version of the same idea: a Mare's Leg 30-30 that stayed in the LGS' case for about a year. It was the first time I'd had a chance to heft one: downright goofy. Back when Steve McQueen was cool, the Mare's Leg was supposed to be IT. I watched Wanted: Dead or Alive all the way through last year on the cable. That thing looked goofy, and unweildy.
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I suppose a good part of my angst might be marketing-driven. I noticed after age 45, there was no longer any TV commercials and nothing in the stores that appealed to me anymore. Then I realized: I've fallen out of the primary demographic! Of course!

On the other hand, in addressing my rifle loonyism or lack there-of, I have to admit that I was never attracted to hunting arms until I was an adult, then it was from direct contact in the LGS or from reading the books I amassed.

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i have been a collector of military from around the world, and here, plus a real addiction to old firearms.
It's probably not possible to own all the garands floating around, but you sure could try.
I have known a few people that owned several thousand japanese rifles, same in krags for another guy,
same for mausers.
There are a LOT of mausers out there made at various times for various countries.
I won't even get into the handgun area. Wouldn't it be great to own a speciman of every model smith and wesson ever made?


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No way in Hades am I dropping back to my 375, one 30-06, a 22 RF, and a 12 guage shotgun ! ! ! !
While they will cover all bases, I have too much fun with other calibers, and handguns.
Typically, in my ranch truck you will find a 204 Ruger - but, during hunting seasons, a Savage 99 in 243 lives there.
One of the 06's will come out for elk, 223 or 22 K-Hornet for prairie dogs (maybe even the 17 Rem) - the others are mostly for fun, and to let the g-kids experiment.
Four 06 military rifles, and four g-kids to shake it out!

I just hope they will all let me play, too!


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Originally Posted by kingston
This is about the transition from guns as a principal component of the entertainment, to guns as a tool integral to the hunt as entertainment.



I'm editing this.

It's about transitioning from the gear being a principal part of the entertainment, to the gear being something integral to an activity, which is the entertainment.


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I'm at the age where I think I want to simplify and consolidate, but I achieved a measure of affluence later in life (I chose to travel light and far my first four decades) and have been making up for lost time the last 20 years. I could give up several dozen firearms and still be very well-equipped and prepared, but I'm just not ready to do that. I am having too much fun!


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Nothing wrong. We tend to get wiser as we grow older.

As for catalogs, the only one I miss from the Olden Days is the Herter's catalog. As for the rest, I'm glad they stopped clogging my life.

The one caliber I recommend for an old fart with an itch to scratch is the .22 Hornet. Good therapy lies in that little case.


Good post......Herters and the Hornet.....yes indeed.

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Originally Posted by jwall
I have 2 magnum rifles in cartridges that I don't get to hunt as much as I have in the past. Both of them are no longer available EXCEPT pre owned so I still enjoy having them.

I'm concentrating on more hunting opportunities with what I have.

Good Luck Guys

Jerry


Well...this thread has prompted me to put a scope on my 8 mm RM AND rescope my Black Shadow 300 WM. It has been over 5 years since I shot/hunted the 8mm. I have been dis satisified with the el cheapo scope on my Black Shadow (it came that way)... SO today I have mounted 1 different scope on the 8 and a new 4-12X40 on the 300.

I don't need either one where I'm hunting now but it doesn't mean I CAN'T hunt them. I plan to enjoy them the next couple of years.

River Rider said,..... " I could give up several dozen firearms and still be very well-equipped and prepared, but I'm just not ready to do that. I am having too much fun!"

See what Y'ALL have done. grin

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For me its just "weird" gettin "old" and thinkin about this stuff...who'd of thought!
A group of us were talking outside of church a while back, and all the conversation was all about what meds we're on, prostates, and stuff like that...damn!
I am gonna have a "safe sale", probably most of my military rifles and Trapdoors, just cause with my eyes and those tiny sights I can't enjoy them like I used to.
That will still leave me with ten or more scoped "hunting" rifles in an assortment of calibers from 22LR to 300H&H. Then I can decide what to do from there.
But, knowing my "loonieness" having some cash in my hand, (hopefully), from selling some rifles, may lead to additional purchases.
I surely enjoyed reloading and tweaking each and every rifle I've owned, to see what they could do. But, as stated before, I tend to put them in safe and move to the next one.
Time will tell I guess.
I never fell prey to marketing, although Ken Waters, Townsend Whalen, and a few have influenced my want list a bit. Out of 100 or so guns I've owned, I would say less than 10 were new.
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Originally Posted by K1500
.22lr + .223 + .30/06 + 12ga = all the calibers someone needs to cover everything in America.

Other combos will do it, but not any better.

You can even toss the .223 out if you aren't a high volume target/tactical/p-dog hunter and just do everything from woodchucks to moose with the .30/06.



When I was a kid almost everyone I knew that hunted to feed their family only had 3 guns. A loaded 12 Guage that stayed behind the bedroom door when it wasn't being used. A 22 rifle and a "deer rifle". 90% of the time the that deer rifle would be either a 30/30, 243 or 30/06. I agree, with modern times a 223 needs to be in that mix.


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Know the feeling - I just have zero desire to own a black plastic semi auto AR anything. I have no desire to play rambo and spray bullets. More of a one shot one kill type myself. I do own a 30-06(Pre-War M70) 12ga (Ruger Red Label) and a .22 (CZ 455) Instead of the .223 I have another CZ in .17HMR that makes a fantastic semi urban rock chuck slayer. All I have left to round out my battery is a S&W.38special Airweight that i carry bowhunting and a .22 cal Beman R-9 Pellet rifle that slays the chucks closer to subdivisions. The only real hankering I have for a new rifle is a Win Model 70 Featherweight in .308 Win. Not sexy by modern standards but classy in my book.


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Originally Posted by jwall
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I have 2 magnum rifles in cartridges that I don't get to hunt as much as I have in the past. Both of them are no longer available EXCEPT pre owned so I still enjoy having them.

I'm concentrating on more hunting opportunities with what I have.

Good Luck Guys

Jerry


Well...this thread has prompted me to put a scope on my 8 mm RM AND rescope my Black Shadow 300 WM. It has been over 5 years since I shot/hunted the 8mm. I have been dis satisified with the el cheapo scope on my Black Shadow (it came that way)... SO today I have mounted 1 different scope on the 8 and a new 4-12X40 on the 300.

I don't need either one where I'm hunting now but it doesn't mean I CAN'T hunt them. I plan to enjoy them the next couple of years.

River Rider said,..... " I could give up several dozen firearms and still be very well-equipped and prepared, but I'm just not ready to do that. I am having too much fun!"

See what Y'ALL have done. grin

Jerry




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Yes indeed I do! whistle


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Originally Posted by nick
For me its just "weird" gettin "old" and thinkin about this stuff...who'd of thought!
A group of us were talking outside of church a while back, and all the conversation was all about what meds we're on, prostates, and stuff like that...damn!
While I occasionally talk about meds and stuff, I don't have any "old" friends. We've all aged, which is unavoidable, but "old" is strictly between the ears. Huge difference between maturity and growing up. Although, if you talk to my friends and family, I haven't matured yet, either. whistle I know I'll never get old, or grow up. Hope none of you guys and gals do.



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My buddy, Bob, is stuck in a home at the moment. This is the retired gun editor. He has one of the best collections of old Rugers on the planet. He broke his femur stumbling in his back hall. Bob is a past president of Ohio Gun Collectors, and once counted among his friends Elmer Keith and Bill Ruger. I go visiting him whenever I can-- usually once a week. He's stuck in a wheelchair right now and trying to get rehabbed back to possibly needing only a walker.

Bob frequently looks up at me and says, ". . .and the crazy thing is there is still a 17 year old trapped in this body!" He's been saying that to me for close to 40 years.

This was my sponsor in Rifles Anonymous 30 years ago. This was also the fellow that, with the aid of Jerry the ex-marine armourer, convinced me for a time that a 22LR, a 12 GA shotgun a 223 Rem and a 30-06 were all you needed. The problem was all three of us were constantly falling off the wagon. It didn't help that Jerry owned a gun store and a reloading operation. I soon realized that the 22/12/223/30-06 was just an addict's mantra.


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Don't have a .30-06. -sniff-

Or a .223. -PTL-

Prefer the 20 to a 12.

Nobody can graduate from Stunt Shooters High School without a Hornet.

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan

Nobody can graduate from Stunt Shooters High School without a Hornet.

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Now Dang it !! You didn't just say that, did ya? shocked

You just knocked me OFF the wagon. cry

I don't like you now. wink
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ROTF, you're welcome.

Gramps had an old Win Hornet he lugged about everywhere, model 43 as I recall. He took a crack one day at a flying turkey out about 200 yards. Didn't hit it, but startled the bird sufficiently that it flew into a cypress tree. Point, set, match.

He wore out an L.C. Smith SxS 16 shootin' quail in central Florida, bought another and was well on the road to wearing that one out as well. Everything I learned about stunt shooting quail, I learned from him. He considered it unsporting to take more than 8 shells on a hunt with the limit 10 back then. Sometimes he got more than the legal limit. I'm good with a dozen shells in the vest/gun.


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A couple of memorably fine days were spent in the grouse woods and quail fields on those rare occasions I forgot to take any shells. A walkabout without carrying a gun can sometimes be a refreshing experience, without the "personal pressure" to produce some dead birds.

Ye God's and Little Fishes! You gotta do a lot of shooting to wear out a Smith!


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He did a lot of shooting and that's a natural fact. He wore out more pointers than guns over the span of about 60 years chasin' quail birds. Wore out some of his boys and grandkids too. I have his first piece, a Win 1890 in .22 WRF. It shoots fine as my old eyes can manage. And if you don't have a WRF shooter you might be entirely too normal.


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