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I do most of my testing at maybe 50' elevation if it works there it will work anywhere.

Here is an interesting article. Doesn't cover 117gr, but does cover origins and experimentation of the ".250"
22" or 24" barrel matters among other things. Depends what the goal is in 2017. ??

http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.250-3000.250+Savage.html

Arthur Savage was in California growing oranges or making tires by 1914. Also it's my understanding that Newton wanted the 100 grain bullet and Savage Arms wanted the 87 so they could advertise the 3000 fps and sell more rifles. The author must be a Winchester guy. He's sure giving Savage a bad rap. I'm tempted to go elk hunting with a 250-3K this fall just to show him up. David

The 1-14" twist 250 Savage is likely the stupidest thing to ever come out of a factory, followed by the 1-14" 22/250.

You got that right !


On a side note, the 60 gr. Hornady FP should work like a champ....

I've shot the 117grn.hornaday round nose bullet, with blc-2 powder in my 1920 savage in 250-3000 and they shoot really well out of my gun.

Never was able to get my 1953 EG to stabilize the Hornady 117-grainers; they all printed sideways. Winchester 100-gr Silvertips shoot okay, but my preference is handloads with Speer 87-gr Hot Cor bullets. They work on whitetails and antelope as far as I can hit them with peep sights.

Shot the 99 EG 1-14 twist with 117 Horn RN today best load 3 at 2.8" looked stable.

Out of my 1903 Springfield 250 Savage 117 GR RN best load with recv sight was 4 @ 2.7" at 100 yards

See, the thing is the only reason one would have for slinging long heavy bullets out of a .250 would be for really long range shooting and/or deep penetration. Advances in bullet technology for lighter bullets make that a moot point. On top of that, though, I find some humor in watching guys trying to make .250's into something they aren't. If I wanted extra performance above and beyond high velocity 87 grain loads, I would go to a .257 Roberts or .25-06 anyway.

If 3" groups are the norm with a rifle/load combo, what is the accuracy at 200, 300, or 400 yards where the advantages of long heavy bullets come into play? Extrapolating 6", 9",and 12" groups don't exactly inspire confidence. And as those bullets shed velocity they become less stable to boot.

Don't get me wrong, if I had a pile of 117 gr. .25 bullets and nothing better to do with them, and I wanted to waste some time in a fun way, I would shoot them up. But I would know I wouldn't be cheating the laws of physics in any significant way.

What's the bullet length on those Hornady's? I'm not sure if the ones I tried were Hornady's or another brand. Been too long.

Be nice to have a better bullet while carrying the 250 Savage in Alaska. Or it will stay home. Plus I have 200 of the Hornady 117 RN . Under 3" and stable would work at short range.

80 gain TTX ask Rilly.

Mel the 80 gr tipped is a longer bullet, shorter bullets have a better chance of stabilizing in a slower twist.

My 85 Gr older Barnes X is marginal.

Probably best bet would be to cut off the lead on the 100 gr N Partition not a primary load but one to use if I needed it.

It might surprise you how accurate that Partition will be with the tip cut off. Did some quick trials with it.