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30-06 or 270win are pretty hard to beat. They will do it all for anything you can hunt here.
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"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile from them, and you'll have their shoes."
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22 LR. All game under 350 pounds and all target shooting under 150 yards.
30-06. All game from 25 pounds to 1000 pounds at every practical and ethical range
308Win Same as above,but in a semi-auto you can include a modern hi capacity magazine fed fighting weapon too
9.3X62 All game from 25 pounds to 2500 pounds at practical ranges. Near the 375H&H in abilities and at lower cost to make a rifle.Uses standard 30-06 length actions and bolt faces, extractor and so on.
375H&H All game............meaning all game. At all ranges that an ethical hunter would shoot. Also good for very long shots but seldom used for such a purpose. I have, one time, at over 800 yards on my 1st moose. One shot one kill.
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Per the OP's perfected design criteria, the 6.5 Creedmoor seems about right.
At the time, and still today mostly, the 30-06.
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“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General
John Stark.
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6.5x55.........a classic...........
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
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My gut says 30/06. I do have a history with the Otter6. But,now that the 280AI has reached "common" status,I think I'll go with it.
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
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7mm-08 and 358 Win. Efficient cartridges that come from the same bloodline.
Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty.
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No one even mentioned the 264Wm....... been around a long time.... Fast and Flat.....
Men and Rivers are made crooked by the path of least resistance....!!!!!!!
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The truth is that most of what are considered "classic" cartridges are very hard to improve on. My votes:
# 1. 30-06 Springfield, its been around for over 100yrs, and is still the standard most new rounds try to compare with for all around use.
# 2. 375 Holland & Holland, , once again its been with us for over 100yrs and it too is hard to improve on for big game
# 3. 7x57 Mauser ( 275 Rigby) , it's also been here for over 100yrs and still does great on light to medium game.
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The Grand Old 30-06
110 grains for vermin, to 220 grain partitions for everything else save four of the big five.
Trump Won!
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The truth is that most of what are considered "classic" cartridges are very hard to improve on. My votes:
# 1. 30-06 Springfield, its been around for over 100yrs, and is still the standard most new rounds try to compare with for all around use.
# 2. 375 Holland & Holland, , once again its been with us for over 100yrs and it too is hard to improve on for big game
# 3. 7x57 Mauser ( 275 Rigby) , it's also been here for over 100yrs and still does great on light to medium game.
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Welcome to the fire with post number 1 and especially so with a common sense non negotiable contribution. Anything else is personal taste. Had all 3, currently have 2 of the 3 as I prefer the .458 over the .375 but that is because it is my rack, but I applaud the above selection.
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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I have to go with the following!
30-06
7mm RM
308
243
223
22lr
I like the 7 mm Mauser but don't have one any longer, and the 260 is next to fill a safe spot!
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Dirty ought six all day every day!
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The truth is that most of what are considered "classic" cartridges are very hard to improve on. My votes:
# 1. 30-06 Springfield, its been around for over 100yrs, and is still the standard most new rounds try to compare with for all around use.
# 2. 375 Holland & Holland, , once again its been with us for over 100yrs and it too is hard to improve on for big game
# 3. 7x57 Mauser ( 275 Rigby) , it's also been here for over 100yrs and still does great on light to medium game.
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Welcome to the fire with post number 1 and especially so with a common sense non negotiable contribution. Anything else is personal taste. Had all 3, currently have 2 of the 3 as I prefer the .458 over the .375 but that is because it is my rack, but I applaud the above selection. I totally agree with this list as well.
If you find yourself in a hole....quit digging
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Let's be honest, the much appreciated 30-06 is but an imitation of the 8x57mm. So too it's much appreciated original rifle.
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7 Rem Mag. Hard to beat it. Load it down or hot. It's very common. At least half the 20 guys on my lease hunt with one.
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