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Likely RL-15. For the handguns likely Titegroup.
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Hatari
Just to complement your post...
the 4350s (IMR & H ) also work well in 'smaller' cartridges, e.g. - 243 Win, 6.5X55 et.al.
Jerry
Very good in 6.5 Swede for sure!
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Yep, Hatari
It's the TOP powder for my Swede w/120 NBTs--right now.
It MAY BE my only powder, depending on "ON GAME performance. It's ready to go, but I'm distracted this year. I've killed several deer w/the Swede and I've got my 284 Win nearly ready to go, so time will tell.
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Way more Varget than anything else in my rifles--great accuracy, consistency and usually close to top velocity. I tried to simplify the powder deal, especially during the shortage era. The 757 does love H414 with the heavies but I can get by with Varget (or it's near twin R15) in all my stuff.
Pretty much use Titegroup exclusively for the 9 and 45 in the Dillon.
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If forced to pick "1" powder for my uses it would be IMR-4064.
Works well in 22-250, 243, 6mm, 257 Roberts, 270 with 110 grain bullets and 30-06 with 150s. Wasn't bad the one time I tried it in 223 with 55 grain bullets either.
Maybe not top velocity in those cartridges or top accuracy for a certain load but good enough most times.
My 22-250 loves RL-15 so burning a good amount of that right now.
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IMR-4166 and IMR-4451 both have temperature stabilizing and Copper fouling preventing coatings.
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But if you shoot deer at 500 yards with a 7mmRemMag, this is breakthrough progress.
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In the early 70's I drove to Mexico, MO to Graf's as they sold bulk 4064 for $ 4 per lb. but you had to bring your own containers. It is still my go to choice. CM
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3031 doesn't get a lot of play for some reason or another, but it has been very good to me in loads from the 22-250 up to the 45-70
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As I am now loading primarily .405 Winchester and .45-90, I use only VV N133. I do have some VVN530 to experiment with heavy-for-caliber bullets in both rifles.
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Slight change in subject - Your fav Black gun powder
Me? BL-C2
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IMR-4350. It works great in everything I load for.
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Slight change in subject - Your fav Black gun powder
Me? BL-C2 Huh ? 2 F of course ! Oh !! Not Black Powder Sorry, first thing that came to mind. Jerry
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Slight change in subject - Your fav Black gun powder
Me? BL-C2 TAC
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Interesting thread..
Mine are - For smokeless handgun and rifle loads- Unique, LilGun, Varget and H4831SC
in my BPRC loads- Swiss 3F
I try to by 8lb jugs of the smokeless and the Swiss BP by the 25 lb case.
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No pet powders here.
I use what gives me good results for a particular round and bullet in a given rifle. I have had good success with IMR & H 4350, IMR & H 4831, IMR & H 4895, IMR 4064, IMR 3031, and R15. They're not the new and improved powders, but they do just fine.
It seems that R15 and IMR 4064 were made for my European rounds...6.5X57R, 7X57, 7X65R, 8X57 (J and S bore), 9,3X62, and 9.3X74R.
The powder I use most overall is IMR 4350. I guess it's close to being a "pet-powder".
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VV N135 for the 222,22-250, 6BR, RL 19 for the 6mm, 7-08 280, 280AI H4831 for the 25-06, 270,6.5-284
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Doing some load development recently and have found IMR 4064 to be very versatile producing very accurate loads for my .257 Roberts, .30-06 & .35 Whelen. It produced superb accuracy in a .35 Whelen reduced load with 180gr. Speer FP.
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Slight change in subject - Your fav Black gun powder
Me? BL-C2 TAC CFE-223
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We ALL should be glad that everyone does NOT prefer the same powder.
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