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He asked if he was 'just unlucky', seems many here were only explaining how to make your own luck.

I couldn't disagree with that if I wanted to. I gave up on 1911's in the late 90's.

I won't argue the point that you are very likely to spend considerably more to get a truly reliable 1911 than to do so with a Glock. But pennies on the dollar? That's a huge stretch. As I implied - you exaggerate.........unless you mean possibly 60 cents on the dollar. But then, why not say "half as much"?

I gave up on them in the late 80's, IIRC - but then I learned what it takes to make one work.

I learned what makes a Glock work too, pulling the trigger.

I'm not prone to drive a new car off the lot just so I can put in a new rear axle and transmission so I know I can get to work the next day with it.

YMMV

I hear ya. Not all 1911's need things fixed or replaced to rely on them. But it's a really good idea to check to make sure that axle will spin. Knowing what to look for really helps. The guy who isn't interested should look elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that - it just is. But that doesn't mean it takes moolah bucks to have a reliable 1911.

No, just a miracle...

Damn, I must have a few miracles....

I know you are probably talking about your Super Blackhawk, but it reminded me of my buddy's P90.


So many years ago, I want to say maybe 1993 or 1994 (ish) a college buddy bought a Ruger P90 .45 from the guy who owned the service station he worked part time at. It was as ergonomic as a 2x4 and goofy looking. I was giving him a hard time since I had a 70 series Colt ( I was hugely proud of). That weekend we went out and shot some of my USPSA loads. That P90 not only out shot my slicked up 70 series, it had less recoil. The DA trigger was mushy as heck but it was totally reliable and shot like a match gun. You rarely see them around these days, but I ended up playing with a couple more over the years, and the 45 versions were all the same. They were all stupidly accurate.

I picked up a P90 years ago, I don't recall exactly what I paid but it was too cheap to pass up. Perfect description, big, blocky and ugly with a mushy trigger, but 100% reliable and accurate. One of those guns that you never really like, but no way will you part with it.

This is one of my best shooting 45's but it is like packing a anvil on your hip.

You might be surprised to find that the S&W 645 specs at about an ounce LESS than a standard 1911.

There is something about them that makes them look huge though.




They are pretty awesome guns and solid shooters.

An Ed Brown "Kobra Carry" is $2,695. A Glock 19 is maybe $550

$550/$2695 = 0.204. Or 20 cents on the dollar.

And I'll bet the Glock is still more reliable.

True, I agree.

Although, I have had $500-$600 used 1911 pistols (all full size Govt models in .45) that ran flawlessly, but I mostly just use Glocks now.

Of course, we all know darn well the guy buying SCCY, Taurus, and S&W Sigma series pistols isn't going to even consider an Ed Brown. I'd bet if he sold all the junk guns, he'd have enough to buy one decent Glock, with enough left over for some good sights. Some get stuck on the "cheap" mindset though, and low price becomes more appealing than quality.

This mirrors my own experience with a P90 I bought around that time. I still have it and the high dollar Colt I got around the same time. The Colt has never shot as well as the P90.

That P90 is like an investment cast Glock.

The interesting thing is that there are some real bargains to be had for around the same price as your typical new Taurus, or new SCCY, if a person is willing to buy used, and shop around a bit, provided they are semi knowledgeable.

Right now there are literally thousands of 3rd Gen S&W Police trade in semi autos floating around at pretty decent prices. Many are cosmetically rough from lots of holster time, but mechanically sound, and for the average guy who is not going to put 10K through his CCW in the next 10 years (or lifetime probably) they would make more sense than an SCCY.

To a lesser extent the same holds true for metal framed police trade-in Sigs.

I would take a used, scratched up S&W 5906 9mm over a new Taurus Curve and Sccy pistol any day!

I saw a S&W 3913 Ladysmith with two magazines for $325 the other day; kind of regretting not buying it.

I've got 4 Glocks and 5 Rugers,

On the Ruger side, my SBH is the oldest and first handgun, going back to 1978. There's also a Security Six 357, Blackhawk 45 convertible, Single-Six convertible, and a 22/45.

Glocks include a 17, 19, 21, and 22.



Enough to cover most bases, but still a few like-to-haves.

Great value in a new pistol , Canik TP-9

I saw quite a few P90's at my LE qualifications for a few years and your experience with them mirrors mine. I'd probably have bought one but they fit my hand about as poorly as any modern pistol I ever tried.