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Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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Look deeper. That's a symptom, not a cause. Better yet, it was a tool (just one among many) rather than a cause.
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Neither accident nor casual happening.
Judeochristian Ethos is the basis of Western Culture, Capitalism.
It must be pulled down for anarchy, the Spirit of the Anti-Christ to reign.
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Right on DF.
How did this happen? The answer is obvious, to me at least.
It starts with a breakdown of the family unit. Stats say that today nearly half of the families in America are "dadless" and have no spiritual leader in the household. Our schools have done everything possible to take God out of them as well. Our own country murders millions of innocent and defenseless babies every year, and nobody seems to care, all the while we complain and pledge violence against ISIS........how ironic. When you have a generation or two of this type of behavior, having become more Godless, it becomes your culture Sadly, this is our culture today.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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It started when women were given the vote.
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Right on DF.
How did this happen? The answer is obvious, to me at least.
It starts with a breakdown of the family unit. Stats say that today nearly half of the families in America are "dadless" and have no spiritual leader in the household. Our schools have done everything possible to take God out of them as well. Our own country murders millions of innocent and defenseless babies every year, and nobody seems to care, all the while we complain and pledge violence against ISIS........how ironic. When you have a generation or two of this type of behavior, having become more Godless, it becomes your culture Sadly, this is our culture today. We need to return to our roots, the Judeochristian culture that got us here. The alternative is too terrible to conceive. But, will we? What's it gonna take to get this country back on the straight and narrow? I don't know. It could take something pretty bad. Remember how this country came together right after 911? Well, that lasted a couple of weeks. Shudder to think what will need to happen to get us right and keep us there. DF
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DF, we all know it will never return to what it was. Too much demographics against that. About all we can do is to prolong the fight and hope some are converted along the way. All of what JG Raider said is dead center.
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It started when women were given the vote. And greatly accelerated 12/07/1941. We beat the Japs, and the Nazis, but it cost us our culture.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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It started when non land owners were allowed to vote.
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Yes, and this has its roots deep in the Enlightenment which is to say humanism.
I've stated this long ago in Obama's first year in office.
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It started when women were given the vote. And greatly accelerated 12/07/1941. We beat the Japs, and the Nazis, but it cost us our culture. How so did it cost us "our culture"?
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Momma went to work. And keeping up with the Jones became more important than raising her kids properly.
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Momma went to work. And keeping up with the Jones became more important than raising her kids properly. Agreed.
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The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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We should have picked our own cotton.
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This video certainly explains how Obongo came to power and nearly destroyed us.
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It started because people did not get involved in their schools. Everyone let the government take care of the school agendas. Basically this happened because we let it.
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When the progressives/socialists took over all social programs and education/indoctrination
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Neither accident nor casual happening.
Judeochristian Ethos is the basis of Western Culture, Capitalism. They need to abolish God so that man worships the State. Once they get rid of God, all human rights are issued by the State, they aren't predefined or self evident.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." MOLON LABE
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Most of our problems come from the versities.
That's diversity, perversity, and university.
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what am I missing? Bertolt Brecht lived and died in Germany :
Born Eugen Berthold Friedrich Brecht 10 February 1898 Augsburg, Bavaria, German Empire
Died 14 August 1956 (aged 58) East Berlin, East Germany
is he talking about a different one ?
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The root cause is when we kicked God out of our lives.
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Was thinking about this the other day and came up with some thoughts on the subject. From the very beginning, government began to concentrate power unto itself but for the first 150 years it was not overly intrusive. My parents were born in the 1920's and I think their generation enjoyed the best that America had to offer. Automobiles, electricity, flush toilets, strong family values, trust in God, home ownership and the promise if they worked hard they would be rewarded. About midway through their generation the entire nation united against a common enemy and all made sacrifices to win the war. They endured rationing and personal sacrifice. Many of them made the ultimate sacrifice. After the war they started their own families and wanted to give their kids (my generation) the things they never had. The ultimate decline of the United States started in the 1960's. For some reason 1967 sticks in my mind. The idea of personal gratification, free sex, drugs, Woodstock and the mentality anything you want to do is okay. Hippies, Beatnicks, Pachucos were all part of this movement. Since then the schools have served as institutions of indoctrination, not institutions of education, starting in the colleges and universities and gradually spreading to the high schools, grammar schools and even pre-schools. Head Start was created to start indoctrinating children at a very young age. Political correctness, homosexualism, transexulism and all the other things that are destroying our country have arisen from this movement. I don't think we can reverse the destruction of our once great nation. The election of President Trump will help delay the process, but ultimately our nation will succumb to liberal ideology and will destroy itself from within. The best we can hope for is to delay the complete destruction as long as possible by re-electing President Trump and praying for his lasting influence on our government.
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Neither accident nor casual happening.
Judeochristian Ethos is the basis of Western Culture, Capitalism.
It must be pulled down for anarchy, the Spirit of the Anti-Christ to reign.
DF Everything else mentioned here and most places are just the eruptions of the underlying disease. As I mentioned above, HERE is the root cause -- leaving our corporate (mostly a whole nation's way of living) Judea-Christian foundation. The feckless Obama -- just a symptom of the thinking and the values or lack thereof of those who voted for him -- was just being himself, a corrupt, elitist, racist, Marxist. Look at western Europe's trajectory. In their multicultural (really meaning for the peasants that no culture is superior and none is inherently inferior) postmodern thinking they can't even recognize the evil ideology that is strangling them for what it is.
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I pretty much agree with this view and am no longer optimistic either. This country has rejected the Giver of gifts.
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Me solum relinquatis
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There are lots of answers to your question of "how" - many offered above. Some of the strategies/tactics have been devious and deep-seated, and some have been coincidental.
The more important question (at least to me) is "why". It simply seems to be a natural behavior in the range and scope of humanity. I can't identify a circumstance throughout history where a "people" managed to form a significantly good and dedicated social/gov structure yet had the wisdom, strength and courage to preserve it ongoing.
Among many good things, we have been weak.
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what am I missing? Bertolt Brecht lived and died in Germany : Born Eugen Berthold Friedrich Brecht 10 February 1898 Augsburg, Bavaria, German Empire Died 14 August 1956 (aged 58) East Berlin, East Germany is he talking about a different one ?P. Immigrated to the US in 1941 and left in 1947 after testifying in front of HUA concerning communism in the U.S.
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[quote=Ranger_Green][/quote]
we have multi cultural gangs , isn't that progress ?
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we have multi cultural gangs , isn't that progress ? P. Fuggin hilarious, diversity, tolerance, and inclusion.
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Fuggin hilarious, diversity, tolerance, and inclusion. ABC member can join MS13 with their brothers AB and HA and do whatever they want. P.
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