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Looks like you can order a new Ti model 700 from the Custom Shop - but its going to cost you a bit crazy Looks like a nice overall rifle though, just a bit spendy!!

https://www.remington.com/custom-shop/classic-series-rifles/model-700/ultimate-sheep-rifle


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Good lord, that's enough to buy a NULA and a half!

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Further proof that Remington could [bleep] up a wet dream.....


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"Further proof that Remington could [bleep] up a wet dream....."

And so where or what do you think Remington missed up?

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When they stopped making the original and instead rolled out this $6,000 abomination?


Is this a trick question????


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Why couldn't Remington just stick with the original TI format with an upgraded stock like an Edge?

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"When they stopped making the original and instead rolled out this $6,000 abomination?


Is this a trick question????"


No, no trick question at all.

Manners stocks are an abomination?
PF cut rifles barrels are an abomination? (would you prefer a Douglas?) like Melvin uses, not me!
Ti action is an abomination?
Mini bolt knob is an abomination?
Trippled pinned and timed an abomination?

Regardless of price, these are all quality parts. Some serious thought went into building this from people that hunt.
AND, they picked the right cartridge, 6.5 CM. not going with their own 260 Rem was the right move.

Good for Remington, there is most diffidently a market for these rifles.

Blue Chip parts are here for even the most discriminant hunter.

No, I can't afford it, but that's my problem.


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Yeah, I'll happily take the Douglas barrel if Melvin is screwing it onto one of his actions and handles.

I can't afford one either SU...so we can agree on that part at least I suppose.


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There are a whole bunch of KUIU cultists that are going to "crush it" with this rifle.
And probably many that are upgrading their KUIU uniforms so their ensembles will match their new rifle. smile

In all sincerity, that's a pretty fine list of components.
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


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If I had a sheep tag I'd carry an extra 1.5lb and be happier when I'm in the aim, breathing hard and shaking with excitement.
I have a mk1 M700ti in an Edge, love it. Really don't like this.

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I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass before I paid them $6000 for that, with all the custom smiths available..


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Makes me feel damn good about. My First Gen Ti.


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Originally Posted by MK257
I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass before I paid them $6000 for that, with all the custom smiths available..


I agree, if I had the coin I'd be on the phone with Jon Beanland and have him build me a clone of this rifle, kinda like the overall specs. But if you do a quick look at the parts its a bunch of money, not $5800 but plenty. I'm not sure of some of the parts but a quick overview:

Ti action $1500ish
Manners EH stock $700ish
Proof barrel $900ish
Trigger $150ish
Pinned lug $75
Chamber barrel $300ish
Pillar bed $250ish
Cerakote $250ish
Camo paint $150-$250ish
Bottom metal $200
Muzzle threaded & muzzle brake $200????

So that gets me to roughly $4600 +/- in parts, suppose if you looked around you could get some stuff cheaper but I think I'm in the ballpark. So not sure how they get to $5800+ unless its the awesomeness of the Kuiu engraved bottom metal laugh


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Well I don't expect them to give it to us at cost.

They have families to raise and hunts to go on just like we do.

I applaud Remington for going outside the box for parts, a step in the right direction.

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Still a 5.6# short action. You could ducttape 2 beers to a Kimber Montana and still be carrying less weight.

The last few current production Remington's I was unfortunate enough to buy left a lot to be desired. Had a model 7 that couldn't break a primer, and another with non-concentric barrel threading... hello baffle strike

I'm done with them no matter how much they polish them... everything owned by freedom arms group are still turds in my book.

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Per manufacture, Kimber failures are far higher than Remington, not even close.

700 Ti actions have been Remington's most accurate.

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Good Gawd Allmighty! Remington has lost their mind!....6K? Wow!!!........Hb

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Originally Posted by SU35

Per manufacture, Kimber failures are far higher than Remington, not even close



I don't know if I can agree with that statement: https://www.remington.com/support/safety-center/remington-model-700-and-model-seven-notice

And: https://www.remington.com/support/safety-center/safety-modification-program/remington-model-600-660

I've had some great Remington's a beautiful 700BDL in 458 win mag and a few others. And I'd love a clean original 600 with a vent rib in 308. But when they started with the J-lock in the early 2000's I think they started going downhill.

Reguardless, you could buy 5 Kimbers for the price of that Remington and even if you subscribe to the "Kimber roulette" theory you are bound to win with at least 3 of them... and you would still have a lighter gun with a longer barrel and better ballistics in that 6.5 that needs inches in the barrel to shine. Personally I've bought 3 "junk kimbers" and usually the only problem was the amateur gunsmithing by the previous owner... my 2 Freedom Arms Group era Remington's have been junk, they've ruined Bushmaster, Marlin, AAC and other respected companies with good reputations, I'm not hating on Remington, I'm hating on what their parent company has done to their products. It's like blaming "Winchester" for something built by US repeating arms in their final month before bankruptcy. I have the end of a barrel of a '92 in 32 win special where the front sight screw hole/screw went into the barrel, first test shot at the factory buldged it and they still shipped it. It's not an isolated issue.


When it comes down to it it's all built by men who work for companies who can succumb to market pressures. Remington's parent company right now is killing their QC I applaud them for putting together the high end components but if the same guys with the same machines and the same deadlines are screwing them together I'm going to pass with my mone.... if they come from GAP, Hill Country Rifles, Jon Beanland, or some other known custom/semi custom maker I'll reconsider my position.

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You guys just don't understand the value that KUIU brings to the rifle world.

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A guy could do just as well building his own clone sheep rifle and have money left over to get a good start on the sheep hunt fund.

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Originally Posted by Oregonmuley
Originally Posted by MK257
I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass before I paid them $6000 for that, with all the custom smiths available..


I agree, if I had the coin I'd be on the phone with Jon Beanland and have him build me a clone of this rifle, kinda like the overall specs. But if you do a quick look at the parts its a bunch of money, not $5800 but plenty. I'm not sure of some of the parts but a quick overview:

Ti action $1500ish
Manners EH stock $700ish
Proof barrel $900ish
Trigger $150ish
Pinned lug $75
Chamber barrel $300ish
Pillar bed $250ish
Cerakote $250ish
Camo paint $150-$250ish
Bottom metal $200
Muzzle threaded & muzzle brake $200????

So that gets me to roughly $4600 +/- in parts, suppose if you looked around you could get some stuff cheaper but I think I'm in the ballpark. So not sure how they get to $5800+ unless its the awesomeness of the Kuiu engraved bottom metal laugh


You forgot the tactical bolt knob, presumably titanium...


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Originally Posted by SKane
There are a whole bunch of KUIU cultists that are going to "crush it" with this rifle.
And probably many that are upgrading their KUIU uniforms so their ensembles will match their new rifle. smile

In all sincerity, that's a pretty fine list of components.
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


I thought the same--nice rifle, but I can get Jim Borden to make maybe a better rifle for less. Or I could use a Pierce Ti receiver if I really wanted to trade $500 for 3 oz of weight. And a quality gunsmith will put on 2 Bartlein / Krieger, etc. barrels for the cost of one Proof barrel + install.

I am a Remington fan, and I really like the rifle. I could see some value in it at $4K.

AND I'm not against a 6.5 Creedmoor, but I would pick a 7 Rem Mag for the mountains over the Creedmoor.

I'm also surprised Kuiu / Dakota / Remington Custom didn't start with a Dakota 76 or 97 action. If I'm really going to be out backpacking, hunting sheep at 10K feet, I want to be able to get ice off the firing pin in the field. And I want an open trigger. But I'm also not a sheep hunter, so maybe that's not as big a consideration as I assume it is.

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The price of a custom, the QC of new Remington and you get to keep the mediocre 700 action design? How could you lose!

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"you get to keep the mediocre 700 action design?"

I have/ had 3 Ti and none need the action to be trued up.


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Originally Posted by SU35


Barreled Action - Custom Cerakoted in Titanium color...



Why coat a Ti action in Ti color ceracote?

you can never rub off the color of natural Ti and the old uncoated Rem Ti were already smooth in operation.

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Yeah, I'll happily take the Douglas barrel if Melvin is screwing it onto one of his actions and handles.


A Douglas or Shilen if installed in a rifle built by a competent smith won't disappoint too many people.
but when spending several thousand on a rifle, the extra cost of a cut-rifling tube is mostly negligible.
- does Forbes offer the option of a cut-rifling barrel on request?


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Think a Kimber Montana in 6.5 Creedmoor would scratch my itch at a better price point.


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Originally Posted by starsky
You guys just don't understand the value that KUIU brings to the rifle world.


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It's a sheep rifle for sure. All the sheep that worship KUIU Nation. Flat brim hat and tacticool coffee...rock on bitches!

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i could never afford one of those rifles but remington will easily find one hundred guys to buy them....not to mention the marketing they will get out of advertising this project and showcasing what they can do in their custom shop.....the guys paying tens of thousands of dollars buying sheep hunts wont blink and eye at a $5000.00 dollar rifle

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Not entirely overpriced for the parts going into it compared to a Proof Summit or other carbon barreled titanium rifles.

The Rem Ti will most likely hold it's value better also. Just look how much the older Rem Ti's sell for.



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If you look at the rem 700 AW and what your getting for the price, greyboe stock, 5R barrel and cerakoted I would take the AW over the $6000 sheep rifle in a heart beat.

https://www.remington.com/rifles/bolt-action/model-700/model-700-american-wilderness-rifle

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Originally Posted by SKane
There are a whole bunch of KUIU cultists that are going to "crush it" with this rifle.
And probably many that are upgrading their KUIU uniforms so their ensembles will match their new rifle. smile

In all sincerity, that's a pretty fine list of components.
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.



Too funny, I wish it wasn't true though

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It seems to me that Remington is addressing some of the complaints of the 700 design with this rifle - pinned bolt handle, so it doesn't break off, M-16 style extractor, dual ejectors, Timney trigger.

From the Remington website.

Bolt - Spiral Fluted
Mini Bolt Knob (Badger) with Kuiu Engraving
Triple Pinned and Timed
Extractor M-16 Style (Badger Ordnance)
Custom Duel Ejectors
Trigger –Timney 510


Not sure that I would have much faith in a company that promotes a rifle but doesn't proof read their advertising. duel ejectors - WTF are the ejectors going to fight it out between themselves, it should be dual ejectors.

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I have two Sheep rifles. The first is a 7mm Wby UL Mk V weighing 8.2 lbs all up.

The second is a Borden 280 AI weighing less than 7 lbs.

Both get equal call to duty.


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Originally Posted by SKane
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


The only part of KUIU that impresses me is how stupid the owner is.


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Originally Posted by starsky
You guys just don't understand the value that KUIU brings to the rifle world.


LMAO.

I know a lodge owner that can get me a discount on KUIU she-ite.
I'm golden.


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It comes with a KUIU-phone for selfies to post on Instagram cracker as well....

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Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by SKane
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


The only part of KUIU that impresses me is how stupid the owner is.


Stupid all the way to the bank.


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Originally Posted by EdM
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Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


The only part of KUIU that impresses me is how stupid the owner is.


Stupid all the way to the bank.


Yeah pretty much. Co-founded Sitka Gear and now has Kuiu.

I'll take a Kimber Montana for 1300 any day.

That said, I have some Kuiu clothing and it's very good.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by Reloder28
Originally Posted by SKane
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


The only part of KUIU that impresses me is how stupid the owner is.


Stupid all the way to the bank.

This. Jason may be many things, but poor ain't one of them. And some of his gear is pretty good.

But for my money, I'll take 4 Barretts or Kimbers all day long :-)

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Looks like a pretty nice rifle...


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Have not found Sitka or kuiu gear to fit tall, big guys. Guess it's for the little fellers.


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Originally Posted by MK257
I would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass before I paid them $6000 for that, with all the custom smiths available..


Same. Not a chance in hell I'd pay $6k for that rifle.

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Originally Posted by SKane
In all sincerity, that's a pretty fine list of components.
Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


This ^^^^^

Just short of $6K for a rifle AND you want me to advertise for you too! I don't think so. The rifle in question and Remington's introduction of the 6.5 Creedmoor into its lines is a signal to me that they've MAY have realized how far they are behind in the times. Unfortunately for them, I don't think the bandwagon is gonna slow down so they can catch up.


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Originally Posted by EdM
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Alas, the same can be had for less AND without KUIU inscribed on it.


The only part of KUIU that impresses me is how stupid the owner is.


Stupid all the way to the bank.




Yep. I think he's a phenomenal businessman and turns out some pretty damned fine products (I have a number of his garments).
While he's selling product, he's actually selling the experiential - it's not the WHAT, it's the WHY.
He knows his brand and has worked very hard in cultivating/nurturing it. And, he surely understands his audience.

Remington will sell some of these rifles but it won't be to gun cranks (gun cranks know better) - it'll be to the guys that dote on every new docudrama that KUIU produces.


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He's selling the flat brimmed wet dream to punk kids that don't know better...

Remington just admitted the hard way that their trigger sucks and so does the 260. If they'd done a SS 6.5 CM, 1:8, 20", in an edge they'd sell a pile.

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I hunted in carharts for years and years as I didn't know any better but have switched to some Kuiu stuff. It's very good stuff.

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Originally Posted by WAM
Have not found Sitka or kuiu gear to fit tall, big guys. Guess it's for the little fellers.


The founder has said on multiple occasions that he won't make clothing to fit women or fat men, even if it would increase revenue. He wants to maintain the image of only athletic hunters wearing his clothing.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Ruins the [bleep] image....

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KUIU is definitely not selling to fat old men sitting in a deer stand or road hunting...


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Originally Posted by GregW
KUIU is definitely not selling to fat old men sitting in a deer stand or road hunting...


I don't wear the stuff, but what you said is true, and seems to hurt some people's feelings...

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The founder has said on multiple occasions that he won't make clothing to fit women or fat men, even if it would increase revenue. He wants to maintain the image of only athletic hunters wearing his clothing.



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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Originally Posted by starsky
You guys just don't understand the value that KUIU brings to the rifle world.


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Being a glass-half-full kind of guy, I'm just delighted it doesn't say Bone Collector on it. whistle


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It comes with a KUIU-phone for selfies to post on Instagram cracker as well....


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Amazing.
No way would I pay $6000 for that rifle.

On my first and last sheep hunt I bought a Kimber Montana in 270 WSM. It was the worst rifle I have ever owned, accuracy wise. So I sold it and had Jim Kobe build me a sheep rifle, on a Rem 700 action, Mcmillan Edge and Shilen barrel. It was also a 270WSM. And it was very accurate. I do not recall the weight but it was pretty light.
And it killed a dall and mountain caribou.


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That's msrp. I'm sure they'll show up cheaper.

I'd never pay it, but most of my clients I take fishing would in a heartbeat, and I'm sure that's the market they are after. They aren't after the guy who would rather have 5 kimber montanas to tinker with and reload for. They are after the guy who takes a few high dollar hunts a year and who wants one or two rifles.

Make fun of the Kuiu guys all you want, but in my opinion, they really get after it.

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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Originally Posted by WAM
Have not found Sitka or kuiu gear to fit tall, big guys. Guess it's for the little fellers.


The founder has said on multiple occasions that he won't make clothing to fit women or fat men, even if it would increase revenue. He wants to maintain the image of only athletic hunters wearing his clothing.



No kidding. Boss gave me a new set of Kuiu rain gear for christmas last year. I need to start dieting and hitting the gym next week so I can fit in them in Sept..(grin)

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Actually the reason I posted this was just glad to see Remington building rifles again with a Ti action. Wonder if a guy could get one from the Custom Shop?? Or hopefully there will be a trickle down and they build Ti rifles again. If they did a build again like the 1st Gen Ti in the right caliber/twist guessing they could sell a bunch.


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Originally Posted by SU35

I have/ had 3 Ti and none need the action to be trued up.[quote]


IIRC, the old Rem Ti actions were not made by Rem.
hope same outside party is making the new ones to same high standard.


Originally Posted by Mjduct

Reguardless, you could buy 5 Kimbers for the price of that Remington and even if you subscribe to the "Kimber roulette" theory you
are bound to win with at least 3 of them...


5 Kimbers in the safe, 3 that actually shoot.
but you willl be only carrying ONE of them up the mountain.

Originally Posted by joelkdouglas
I thought the same--nice rifle, but I can get Jim Borden to make maybe a better rifle for less.


A Borden for $6K, does not provide carbon wrap cut-rifling barrel and Ti receiver.
not sure about cerakote.

to some all that means something , to others not.


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Originally Posted by Oregonmuley
Actually the reason I posted this was just glad to see Remington building rifles again with a Ti action. Wonder if a guy could get one from the Custom Shop?? Or hopefully there will be a trickle down and they build Ti rifles again. If they did a build again like the 1st Gen Ti in the right caliber/twist guessing they could sell a bunch.


I recently toured the Remington Custom Shop / Dakota facility, and the impression I got was just that--they will make you a rifle with the Ti action. I did not inquire about the cost.

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I think I'd rather have a Fieldcraft.

But I am seriously wanting to bedazzle the back side of my Attack pants.


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I have no problem at all with Sitka or Kuiu apparel. They are about the only pants I can get that fit that are dedicated to hunting. Most any other items of hunting apparel are too baggy.

And I'm not "old" yet, but I'm not "young" any more either! I am in relatively good shape as compared to the average person.

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I think I'd rather have a Fieldcraft.

But I am seriously wanting to bedazzle the back side of my Attack pants.



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I'd of preferred a SS bbl somewhere around KS to MR profile. Stock looks sweet. Price is ridiculous.

I'd sooner grab a Montana and have the money for a few hunts.


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I'd prefere a Kimber Adiondack. And I've got a bunch of Remingon 700's. But I'll never buy another new Remington rifle due to their crappy Customer Service.

Hell, I could buy 3 new Kimbers and a couple of nice Leupold scopes for the asking price of the new Rem. KS.

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I'll make someone a killer deal on an original. Only $3k shipped.


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Too many other options at that price point. Or below.


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One could build on a Lone Peak TI action, proof barrel, any stock you want along with other good stuff cheaper and have a better gun, would it be worth more down the road? NO, If the custom shop TI fares well they will hold their value + regardless if they are worth it or not. I applaud Remingtion for actually doing something right for a change, I will never buy another newer action to build on, the late RR prefix are junk, quality has gone down the drain, the Barrett Fieldcraft would be worth a hard look in 6.5x55 for a sheep gun.

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