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In my backyard shooting rats, squirrels, and coons at 10 yards, 22 CB short and 22LR HP sub sonic
900 miles from home, shooting deer and antelope at 500 yards, 7mmRemMag 140 gr Boat tail not per saami 3.29" 61 kpsi, but handloaded at 3.34" and 70 kpsi
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For me it's the .270Win,then the .30-06Spr...As close to perfection as I'm gonna get.ScottyO.
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. I've had more than one 308 that wouldn't group well with 2.8" OAL cartridges, but would bug-hole with bullets seated out to the lands.
Maybe that's why 155 Scenars shoot so predictably in the 308.
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Since I am in the west, LR is a real option out here.
For that reason, I think the 7 mag and 300 mag are both very hard to beat.
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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define common?
.308 gets my vote for anything I care to chase around... +1 +2
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Personally if I could only have 1 rifle to hunt everywhere in the lower 48, I would only consider this one as toughest to beat:
6.5x55
26 Nosler
7x57
280 Rem
7 Rem Mag
7 Weatherby
7 Mashburn
28 Nosler
308 Win
30-06
300 Win Mag
300 Weatherby
I guess the list isn't very short. I probably forgot something. And it doesn't look like I care much for short actions, though the 308 Win is compelling. And I am aware of contradictions--a 7x57 is fine, but a 7-08 isn't there. And no 264 Win Mag. And no 270, effective but not appealing to me.
The 28 Nosler, 300 Win Mag, and 300 Weatherby would probably be my last choice. Very effective, but I don't care for the recoil.
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Very easy top three:
.223 Rem/5.56, 30-'06 Springfield and 50 BMG.
Kill 'em all clones in Baby, Momma and Papa Bear sizes.
Reaping our enemies, vermin and game for combined total of more than 200 years.
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Which one, in your opinion, is already "perfect" in your eyes and couldn't have been designed any better, and why? The 7mm-08 comes to mind. Despite all the well-deserved Creedmoor hype, the 7-08 is about the perfect, mild recoiling, all-around BG round, antelope to elk. It has a gentle 20* shoulder for great feeding. It is based on brass that is available even in purgatory. Doesn't have the overly long neck of its relatives. Makes perfect use of the 2.8" SA magazine, and from SAAMI is throated to that magazine length. A modernized SA 7x57, which is about as good a place I can think of for most hunters to be. what he said - wife or I one have been shooting one for the past 12 yrs - we're both shooting one these days altho mine is a 7-08AI. Great cartridge.
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Which one, in your opinion, is already "perfect" in your eyes and couldn't have been designed any better, and why? The 7mm-08 comes to mind. Despite all the well-deserved Creedmoor hype, the 7-08 is about the perfect, mild recoiling, all-around BG round, antelope to elk. It has a gentle 20* shoulder for great feeding. It is based on brass that is available even in purgatory. Doesn't have the overly long neck of its relatives. Makes perfect use of the 2.8" SA magazine, and from SAAMI is throated to that magazine length. A modernized SA 7x57, which is about as good a place I can think of for most hunters to be. [quote=akmtnrunner]Which one, in your opinion, is already "perfect" in your eyes and couldn't have been designed any better, and why? Couldn't have said it better myself. The 308 would be number two on my list
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The .270 Win. is the toughest to beat common round. Even though 7/08 and 308 are good, and can have higher BC bullets, the .270 is as good in the wind because it's in the wind a shorter time. Also, drops less.
My vote to the other portion of the question, "couldn't have been designed better" goes to the 300 WSM. Better than an 06, with ballistics matching 300 H&H in a smaller compact rifle.
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30-06 It gets the job done
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either the 30-06 or the 7 x 57 loaded with modern powders and bullets are probably the 2 most UN sexy rounds that have been doing all it longer that just about everything else. Honorable mention would go the the 375 HH with 270 TSX and RE15 is overkill for most things but it will work on everything.
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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