Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Custom Rifles & Wildcats So which Mauser 98 actions do run?

I have 5 of them right now, all a little different...I have one of each in use(or in progress)


DWM 1908 Brazilian
DWM Gew.98
Danzing Gew.98
BRNO 98/22
BRNO Vz.24

I chose these particular actions based mainly on the fact that I was able to buy them "right", don't think you can really go to wrong with either German or Czech production 98's. When you get right down to it, I guess my biggest criteria has been they were already set up for optics and under $200. There are not many 98's that I would say are unusable, there are some that I would pay more for than others. So how about it, anybody got particular favorites?

I have these;

1908 Brazilians made by DWM x2
1909 Argentine made by DWM x2
1910 Mexican
1929 Colombian made by Steyr
24/30 Venezuelan made by FN
1936 Mexican x2

I think that the 1908 Brazilians are under-rated, but are hard to find in good condition due to the tropical climate that they saw service in.

VZ-24

Tim, I have a '94 Brazilian action I built into a 250-3000Improved years ago. My Dad left me a '95 7x57 action w/Douglas barrel that was built back in the late 80's. I'm having one built on a Turk at present time that is going to be pretty slick. I really like the small shank Turks. Their really a good buy in these inflated times. powdr

These are 7x57mm VZ24 rifles I got from Century


These are 1908 Brazilian 8x57 Mausers I got from Century


These are 1903-1905 Turkish Mausers I got from Century

I like the VZ24 Mausers and the J.P. Saur Mausers the best.

From what you list, the DWM 1908 Brazilian.

I have two BRNO ZG-47.. best factory action ever made!

Oberndorf square bridge mausers were better made than the ZG47.

ZG47s were made on late-war time shortcut production method tooling.

Oberndorf also has one piece bottom metal, while ZG47 has a seperate
pressed metal magazine box that attaches.

Wow...that is a very nice collection of Mauser rifles sir. I salute you.

Thank you. I have been sporterizing Mausers for 52 years.

Many are a work in progress, but I am almost done with the first one.

Starman: Ok.. thats the only one I would accept as better. But how many of those where made?
Though its safety is not conclusive to scope use. The ZG-47 safety is brilliant.

My only complaint is the pressed metal magazine, instead of one-piece.


My ZG-47 are made in 57..so not wartime, but obviously not polished up to the Oberndorf standards.
If you look at the M21/M22 produced at the same time, you can see that BRNO obviously had that capability.

CZ 550
Interarms Mark X
Gew 98
Santa Barbra

Yes I do.

Surprised that no one yet has mentioned FN.

A Husqvarna M146 9.3x57 that was factory built on C-ring FN action.

Forgot,have a FN also.

Brno Model 21/22 are pretty slick. Std length 98, small ring.

Two Argentine 1909s, one in 7x57, another in 7mm-08
Two GEW 98s one in 35 Whelen, one in 270 win
Two Brazilian 1908s, one in 35 Whelen, one in 7x57
Three Turk 1903s, one in 6mm Rem, one in 6.5x55 swede, one more in 7x57
Two Cz 98/22s one in 257 roberts, one in original garb, 8x57
Three unaltered Swedes, a 96, a 38, and a 94 carbine
A commercial (probably sears) FN in 30/06
a VZ-24 in 308
Thats all I can think of right off hand- yes I was a regular SARCO addict in the early '90s, I blame a neighbor who had an FFL and myself for a subscription to Shotgun news- and the Midway barrel/stock combos they sold real reasonable back then too

Desertshooter

1910 Mexican SR 7X57
BRNO ZG-47 LR .30-06
BRNO 21H SR 7X57
F.N. (J.C. Higgigins) LR .30-06
Safari International LR .338-06
Zastava Mini Mauser MSR .223
Mitchell's Mauser (Zastava) Tanker M98 LR .243

Terry, You have the best.

I have one FN built military Mauser action in service, a Venezuelan 24/30 and four FN built commercial actions, all Husqvarna 640s in 6.5x55, 30-06,and 8x57 (x2).

I thought that we were talking military 98 Mausers, so I only posted the nine of those that I still have. If we're talking commercial 98 actions, I have a few post-WW2 commercial 98s, mostly Mark Xs made in what used to be Yugoslavia and the Husqvarna 640s. I had a Remington 798 for awhile, but the finish wasn't great and somebody wanted it for a 35 Whelen build, so I sent it on down the line.

I have an Ankara Turkish 98 in 6.5x55 Swede. Don't know much about it. It has one of those barrels that I believe Kimber of OREGON not NY put out many years ago. Haven't shot it yet. Seems nice. Is it a LR or SR 98? I do t know.

Think it is a Large Ring mauser.

Nah, just a small collection. I just wish I had more time to use them!

Post war ZG47 production involved using late wartime shortcut production tooling.
So you will see ZG47s that display WW2 cost and time saving production methods
The lower std. of surface finish is a seperate matter again.

ZG47s production was a bit of a bastard mix, as some dont show the late wartime production
shortcuts like other ZG47s do.

IIRC, the ZG47 at some point also used surplus war production components.



If you look at examples of the Brno M22, they will have no integral built guide rib or corresponding slot machined
into the rear bridge. nor any vertical charge slot on the rear bridge hump (but some do) That is because they were
in part put together by Brno with time-cost cutting late war production surplus bolts and receivers.

M22 receiver and bolt is basically the wartime unfinished G33/40 and VZ33
( i.e.: minus the weight reducing cuts, bolt guide rib and rear charge slot)

Like the ZG47, M22 production actions can be a bastard mix of earlier proper orig. design production methods
and the time-cost cutting late war shortcut methods of production.

I like the three g.33/40 mausers that I have.

And still one of the nicest Mauser actions money can buy today.

How about you shew us a single ZG47 with 'wartime' shortcuts...and don't bother posting a picture of the bottom metal as all ZG47s have the same magazine box.

And as for the finish, there are a few with polished receivers but most have the same finish as the Brno model 2.

To put it nicely...you are a [bleep].

And as for the model 21/22 there are a few (very few) early postwar rifles that do not have the guide rib on the bolt, everything from 1949 to 1956 has dove-tails.

And you are still a [bleep].

Someone with the money you can have something much nicer.
and you are no stranger to spending wads of money at times.



You call me a fckwit but then want me to educate you with pictures?
I didn't spend decades researching-educating myself on various mausers just to spoon lazy feed belligerent pommie fools.

As I thought, full of bullshit and arrogance.

Your ZG47 ignorance aside, you started with the wrong aggressive approach....then call me arrogant..LOL

I have discussed this subject before with highly mauser experienced folk like Tom Burgess,
so in effect you are calling BS on the depth of knowledge of the late Tom Burgess.

you are a special kind of stupid and evidently you take pride in being so, but thats fine with me, carry on.

Yes yes, you are a name dropping twat of the nth order.

Now shew us these 'wartime' shortcuts on the ZG47.

I suppose I am both bias and sentimental, but the VZ-24. Not for technical reasons but it was gifted to me by my Dad when I was 12 For an early Christmas gift. It was my brothers as he wanted something else to play with (guitar IIRC) so dad knew I enjoyed shoothing it (it was a sporterized 30-06 Mauser deal with a Bushnell Banner 3-9 scope on it). Really, really too much rifle for a small person, but, as they say, just sucked it up.

Also received a Lyman spartan press and all the other fixins needed to make proper ammo. He showed me 1 time only how to look up how to make a proper cartridge. Been a reloader ever since. Like the dumb bunny, I traded it for a Rem 870 in high school, back when carrying a scoped high powered rifle barely was noticed going to metal shop. After 20+ years of kicking my self, mostly for sentimental reasons, I tracked down the High School friend and he happing sold it back to me for less than $100. That didn't sit well so I sent him more than $200 and still have it. It will never be sold and I hope to tag another deer or 2 before retiring it. Funny how as one grows older they contemplate whom to leave "heritage" items to when my time is gone. Hope I find someone that might listen to my stories with that rifle. It still has a piece of just the right diameter copper wire in the trigger assembly group , installed just so, to take up the slack of the trigger that rifle. The product of a young budding lifelong mechanical student ... For a 12 year old to get that for Christmas really reinforced that from an early age I was and am still a mechanical geek...

essere sicuro
Elena

Are these quality actions?

1932s BRNO small ring mausers.

Many years ago, I bought an Argentine 1909 Calvary Carbine. Made by DWM, all matching numbers, and one of the smoothest actions I've ever seen. I fully intended on building me a "special" rifle with it, but every time I'd pick it up and handle it, I'd think about how I hated to tear it apart just for the action. After keeping it for about 25 years, I sold it to a collector, and bought a factory rifle.....something I'm still kicking myself over. I also remember all those 1960ish advertisements in the American Rifleman with all those Mausers for sale for $19.95 or so.

JSTUART,you won't get the pics or anything else,starman is just a troll.

But,I think you knew that already.

Yes, I think I have worked the lying grandstanding bastard out.

I know Tom Burgess was a huge fan of the ZG -47 and 21/22. You try too hard.

I imagine any factory at any time,can produce a turd or two...

Personally, get utility out of the thumb slot for loading and am partial to them. Prefer small ring to large ring for the small weight saving and slightly more svelte look. Not to say I'd toss a well-running VZ24, Mod 98, Husky or FN to get one.

Mostly along with a good action, a good mauser smith to make it run like a million bucks...if it loads effortlessly and shoots well, it has a home...

Is it just me or is Starman sounding a lot like Larry Root to others too?