Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Glock releases photos of their MHS submission

Here's what Glock put together for the competition. I think the Army made the right choice.

Can't seem to get the photo link to work, maybe someone else can do better than I.

https://kitup.military.com/2017/06/glock-inc.html

And here's a link to the response from the government on Glock's protest.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...glock-mhs-protest-decision-released-gao/

Meh, I think it's just as well. I'm glad we won't be seeing manual-safety Glocks as mainstream. The only "improvement" I see on that MHS Glock I like is the bevels at the front of the slide, since the current 19 doesn't come with those. Some people would be giddy about the lack of finger grooves, but I like them personally.

I like Glocks, but if they didn't submit what was requested (whether it made sense or not), and didn't support the marketing campaign necessary to win anyway, then they didn't deserve to win. It would be a foolish mistake for any of us civilians to think this matters to us even a little bit though, or that it should influence any of our choices on what to buy and carry.

When the Military finally gets away from the NATO requirement for weapons, Glock will get the contract.

What did NATO requirements have to do with it? Several NATO countries field the Glock.

Glock, as well as Glock owners, will most likely be better off by Glock being not selected and entangled in the govt contract. Watch the Sig quality dive in the future. Greed is a terrible damn thing. So is prosperity if not handled properly.

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Yeah, we all know how Beretta's quality dropped off when they had the contract. (Sarcasm font)

I have no issue with the manual safety. Some will use it, and take comfort in it. If I had the handgun given/issued to me, I would simply leave it off, or deactivate it and not worry about it.

The slightly flared magwell is a nice touch, as well as the lack of finger grooves. That said, I can run a Glock fine with or without them.

I played with a Sig 320 with a Romeo RDO today. Great trigger pull and reset. The bore axis was pretty high, but nothing unmanageable.

I would be interested to see the differences in accuracy and time in regards to controlled pairs between a G17 and 320.



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Looks great, except for the thumb safety.

1911A1 was a hard act to follow. Too bad Beretta suffered. Don't think any of the candidates will suffer by following Beretta at this point.

This was directed to GeoW, not GG.

I think you misunderstood my post. Sig, Glock, FN, and Berretta are among the finest arms makers in the world.
Other than Glock (for not getting the pistol contract) how have any of them suffered due to U.S. Military contracts?

I don’t mind a safety at all, as long as it is a real safety instead of an afterthought that could be tricky with gloves or easy to miss. The right side safety also looks like it was MacGyvered. So, this safety looks like a fail to me. I also would prefer to not have an ambidextrous slide release, especially if they did it like the Indianapolis Police model that I saw in the net. I understand that Glock had to eliminate the locking block pin on this design because of the design of the release. Finally, the lanyard ring and the extension of the front strap below the magazine well appear to create hangup points for reloading. (Look at the clearance between the magazine and the lanyard ring.) My impression is that they turned a horse into a camel to meet a bid spec.

I suppose if I got to handle one I could change my mind on some or all of this.

Over history there have been a lot of poor choices made in the selection of small arms, based on either our perception of what is right or actual poor field performance. I have no idea if the Sig is better than the Glock, it certainly has the interchangeable frames. I am interested in how it will perform over time. Wish they would offer the 320 in 10mm.

So is this the Gen 5? Other than the safety and lanyard stud are these other features the Gen 5 stuff that's supposed to be released this summer some time?

After the US had it in service for a decade, the Beretta 92 was 10x the pistol it was when we adopted it. I don't think you get the benefits of a weapon being fielded by the US military.

All in all, I'd say Sig straight up came to play. Their submission matched Glock for reliability and their price was over $100 million dollars less than Glock. So it better met the criteria laid out, beat Glock in most categories, and in the one's it didn't beat Glock, they matched Glock. And their bid was over 30% less...I'd say Sig won pretty clearly.

Clear case of Sig needing the business and Glock wanting the business if they could make a profit!

Mike

So SIG’s deal was $217 per pistol. I’m sure they’re still making a profit at that price, there’s HUGE margin in the Tupperware pistols which is why that’s the direction pretty much everyone is going. It seems SIG wanted it badly…They had the strongest submission, so I expected them to come in above Glock in price…Perhaps so did everyone else, including Glock. Glock isn’t goin anywhere though…they still own the lion’s share of the market, but these days there are a lot of players beginning to eat into that market share…but then, that’s just business.

I like everything but the manual safety

Looks a lot like the Cominolli Glock Manual Safety, actually a well proven modification. I wouldn't be adverse to seeing it added as a factory option.

Glock is getting khtunty over the whole contract deal.

It's not gonna help them.




Travis