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I am looking to buy a Husqvarna that the caliber listed is 9.3. When inquiring which 9.3 it was I was told that it would chamber and cycle a 30-06 case so that would make it a 9.3x62. Since this is a new caliber for me I know very little about it and don't know if that is a true statement about using a 30-06 case. Hopefully someone on here will know. Also, since this is a Mauser action built around 1941/42 could the 96 actions be modified to cock on opening?
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Husqvarna was building the 9,3x57 and the 9,3x62 on both the 96 and 98 actions during the 1941/42 time period. The Models M46A, M46AN, M146 and M246 were all produced in that time frame. Production overlapped.

Some were simply marked Kal 9,3 the length of the case not being marked.

Not knowing EXACTLY which model you have or are looking at, I'd at least want a chamber cast.

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You are however correct in assuming that if it will chamber a 06 round it is most likely a 9.3 X 62. However, I would still want a chamber casting to assure that it has been properly chambered. Many of the 46/146 Husqvarna models have been rechambered from 9.3 X 57 to 9.3 X 62, and not all have been done properly.

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And yes, you can convert to Cock-on-Opening but the purists collectors will hate you forever.

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Thank you all for the replies. This information really helps. The rifle is a Husqvarna, but I don't know which model. I'm told it cocks on opening, but has the thumb slot in the receiver.

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A 9.3x62 will chamber a 35 Whalen ,whose parent case is the 30-06.

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Cock on closing and thumb slot means that it's probably a 94 or 94 variant, but NOT a 98.

Also, the fact that it will chamber a 30-06 case gives me very little confidence. The shoulder and case mouth diameters are different enough that you might be able to get a 30-06 case into a 9.3x57 chamber. Definitely need to get a cast, or be prepared to own a 9.3x57 on a 94 action, which isn't a bad thing at all.


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Here is a photo they sent me of the bolt.

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Originally Posted by K22
Thank you all for the replies. This information really helps. The rifle is a Husqvarna, but I don't know which model. I'm told it cocks on opening, but has the thumb slot in the receiver.


The Cock on Open models (98s) were chambered in both 9,3x57 and 62.

If it ends up being a 9,3x57, you can almost always rechamber them to 62. Some of the 9,3x57's have generous enough chambers that they could chamber an 06 case. Which is why, some do not successfully rechamber to 9,3x62. I always make a chamber cast BEFORE attempting a rechamber.

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If it's a 9.3X57 based on a KAR length magazine you can rechamber it, but you can't load the longer cartridges into the mag. So you'd end up with a single shot or a "2 shooter".

Is the rifle you are interested in somewhere you can get pictures of it and post those pictures?
If so set a ruler on top of the stock next to the action and many of us can tell you if you have a KAR length or a GEW length action and also if it's a 98, 96 or 94 action.

94s will not be 9.3X62, but both 96s and 98s can be.

The fact that it cocks on opening means it's a 98 unless someone has done a conversion on it. If it cocks on opening and If it's 100% original it's a 98.

But that still leaves you needing to know for sure what the chamber is. Some are stamped under the wood line on the barrels. When you get the rifles take the barreled action out of the wood and look it over. That may be all you need to do to know it is really a 9.3X62. If it is a 9.3X57 I would still advise you to get it. That's a fine shell too, and easily made from 8X57 brass.

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All this has sure helped. No accessible pictures of the rifle are available other than the bolt I posted. From what the owner has told me, the photo of the bolt, and the great help from the 24hr. crew, I'm betting it is a 98 action. It has the third lug and cocks on opening. What caliber is still up in the air, but if its a 9.3x57 I can have it rechambered to a 9.3x62 easily. It was the action that was concerning me.
You all have been really great help.

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Originally Posted by szihn
If it's a 9.3X57 based on a KAR length magazine you can rechamber it, but you can't load the longer cartridges into the mag. So you'd end up with a single shot or a "2 shooter".

Is the rifle you are interested in somewhere you can get pictures of it and post those pictures?
If so set a ruler on top of the stock next to the action and many of us can tell you if you have a KAR length or a GEW length action and also if it's a 98, 96 or 94 action.

94s will not be 9.3X62, but both 96s and 98s can be.

The fact that it cocks on opening means it's a 98 unless someone has done a conversion on it. If it cocks on opening and If it's 100% original it's a 98.

But that still leaves you needing to know for sure what the chamber is. Some are stamped under the wood line on the barrels. When you get the rifles take the barreled action out of the wood and look it over. That may be all you need to do to know it is really a 9.3X62. If it is a 9.3X57 I would still advise you to get it. That's a fine shell too, and easily made from 8X57 brass.




WTH are you talking about? The KAR98 (WWI Variants) were Small ring, Large thread, standard length 98 actions. With a magazine of approximately 3.310". The Kar98k was a large ring, large thread, standard length action using the same magazine box length. Husqvarna used neither of these when building their rifles though they did use FN supplied 98 actions that also used a magazine length of 3.310" for rifles made during the 41/42 time period. All these are standard length 98 actions.

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Can you clarify what you mean by 94's will not be 9,3x62 but 96's will? The actions are identical. What are you calling 94's and what are you considering 96's?

The Husqvarna Model 46AN was made on a 96/94 action. It was a 9,3x62. The 649 which started production post WWII was built using the so-called "strengthened" 96 action. It lacked the thumbcut found on the previous actions. The 94, 96 and 640 actions are intermediate length actions and have a magazine of approximately 3.23", which, unless altered, are too short for the 9,3x62 at 3.290".

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If it's a 9.3X57 based on a KAR length magazine you can rechamber it, but you can't load the longer cartridges into the mag. So you'd end up with a single shot or a "2 shooter".

Is the rifle you are interested in somewhere you can get pictures of it and post those pictures?
If so set a ruler on top of the stock next to the action and many of us can tell you if you have a KAR length or a GEW length action and also if it's a 98, 96 or 94 action.

94s will not be 9.3X62, but both 96s and 98s can be.

The fact that it cocks on opening means it's a 98 unless someone has done a conversion on it. If it cocks on opening and If it's 100% original it's a 98.

But that still leaves you needing to know for sure what the chamber is. Some are stamped under the wood line on the barrels. When you get the rifles take the barreled action out of the wood and look it over. That may be all you need to do to know it is really a 9.3X62. If it is a 9.3X57 I would still advise you to get it. That's a fine shell too, and easily made from 8X57 brass.




WTH are you talking about? The KAR98 (WWI Variants) were Small ring, Large thread, standard length 98 actions. With a magazine of approximately 3.310". The Kar98k was a large ring, large thread, standard length action using the same magazine box length. Husqvarna used neither of these when building their rifles though they did use FN supplied 98 actions that also used a magazine length of 3.310" for rifles made during the 41/42 time period. All these are standard length 98 actions.

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Can you clarify what you mean by 94's will not be 9,3x62 but 96's will? The actions are identical. What are you calling 94's and what are you considering 96's?

The Husqvarna Model 46AN was made on a 96/94 action. It was a 9,3x62. The 649 which started production post WWII was built using the so-called "strengthened" 96 action. It lacked the thumbcut found on the previous actions. The 94, 96 and 640 actions are intermediate length actions and have a magazine of approximately 3.23", which, unless altered, are too short for the 9,3x62 at 3.290".


So are saying that even though this one cocks on opening it cannot be a 98 by virtue of the year it was made? Now I'm starting to get confused.

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Did the 94's and 96's have the third locking lug? I thought it was only the 98's.

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OK z1r here is the scoop.
WW1 era M98s were large ring. Small rings commercial 98s were not made until the 20s from my understanding.

Small ring 91s 93s 94s 95s and 96s were all made in both commercial and military styles.

The long action (30-06 length...so called today) was the 96 and the 98 (GEW Length)

The KAR length military Mausers (Like the WW2 rifles) were not introduced until the 30s.

I would not say "thus saith the Lord", but that's been my understanding for as long as I have been working on them, 49 years now.


94 and 98 actions are not identical and in fact, no part other than the front guard screw and bolt stop screws will interchange.

All 91s 93s 94s and 95s were what we now call "KAR length" even though the true KAR-98 was not invented at the time those were designed.

"KAR length" is 7X57 and 8X57 specific in their manufacture.
GEW length is longer and can accommodate the 30-06 length cartridges and can be opened up to 300 H&H mag length.

So a Husqvarna M94 cannot be a 9.3X62 because you could not load the magazine. It could be a 9.3X57 perhaps, but not the X62.

The M96 Carl Gustav M96 actions can be either one because many 96s were GEW length.

That how I have read the info. The 96 Husqvarna magazine is GEW length not KAR length.

No matter to the OP. He has a 3 lug bolt. That is a 98.

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szihn, I think sir that you may be confusing the Husqvarna 1640 action with the 96.

The 94 and 96 are for all intents and purposes, identical. In military guise, they differed by virtue of the fact that the 94 was a carbine and the 96 a rifle.

You also mis-read my post, I claimed the 96 and 94 were the same not the 94 and 98.

Say what you will but the Husqvarna M46AN, built on a 96 action, was factory chambered in 9,3x62. Got one in my shop. Same identical action as the M46 which was chambered in 9,3x57.

The Kar98a and b were WWI era as I previously described. The side of the action was marked Kar(a) or (b). The WWII K98k was marked Mod 98. Both were standard length 98 actions. But that is neither here nor there since they were not used to make Husqvarna commercial sporting rifles. The first "Commercial" rifles using the 98 action were produced in 1898. Between 1898 and 1946 Mauser made just under 127,000 commercial sporting rifles.

If the OP's rifle cocks on opening and has the "third lug", then it would be a 98. The pre-98's did not have a 3rd lug.

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Again, thank you for the information and the education. While not new to rifles nor 98 Mausers I admit to my ignorance on the what you guys have stated in the above posts. You helped me considerably and soon I hope to be the proud owner of a 9.3x62. Other than an 8mm Magnum, the largest caliber I have ever owned. My giant killer you might say. grin

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Z1r, you may be correct in my confusion. I am not as familiar with commercial "Huski"actions as I am with military actions and their commercial counterparts made in Germany (and a few other European countries as well) If i am wrong about those comercial actions I'd love to lear what you have to show me.

But the military 94 and 96 are not the same. In fact I have one of each sitting on my desk as I write this, and I am measuringthem now to be 100% sure of myself.
The box on the 96 is noticeably longer than that of the 94. About 3/16 inch. The 96 has the same length box as the GEW 98 on my 9.3X62. The 94 is .130" shorter.

I have seen several 9.3X57s made on GEW and KAR length Mausers both. I have seen the 9.3X57s made on all 3 models of Mauser action, 94s,96 and 98s over the past 40 years or so. But the 9.3X57 cartridge is shorter then the 9.3X62. I do not have a load spec on the 9.3X57 C.O.L. but I assume it's the same as the 8X57 cartridge overall length.
The spec on the 9.3X62 is 3.290" or 3.310" depending on which sheet you read. Old German specs (1920s) are a bit longer than the current spec (2015)

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szihn,

Normally I'd bust out a 96 and a94 lay em side by side and show you they are the exact same thing. However, photobucket has taken my photos hostage and I really don't think that even pics will matter to you.

But, since you have both a 96 and a 94 on hand, why don't you post pics so that we can be sure what we are talking about.

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Originally Posted by z1r
szihn,

Normally I'd bust out a 96 and a94 lay em side by side and show you they are the exact same thing. However, photobucket has taken my photos hostage and I really don't think that even pics will matter to you.

But, since you have both a 96 and a 94 on hand, why don't you post pics so that we can be sure what we are talking about.

I just got a huski 9.3. I can't post photos either. Would like some identity help with this guy. Any of you can help with the photos?

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