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So do you think the 14" 22-250 would stabilize a 55ttsx or 50ttsx? My .223 Montana will stabilize the 62ttsx but shoots the 55 better.

I bought a 223 through SAS and my plan was to re-barrel if it wouldn't shoot the Amax, it shot decent with 68's but would not shoot the Amax so I sent it to IT&D, its a little badA$$ now. If you really wanted a 22-250 an 8t barrel would only make it better, not hard on the wallet if you find a used rifle.

I'd skip right to a 6.5CM and forget about reloading

22-250, and don't sweat the twist. It'll be fine with up through 60 gr's. If you want to get fancy, you can always rebarrel it later, but meanwhile you'll have a good little rig for what you intend, and a 22-250, even twisted 1-14", is still a hell of a lot more rifle than a 223.

But I'm also in agreement with those saying go straight to Creedmoor and bypass either. But you didn't ask that

The Fieldcraft is 7-twist and available 18-in. & threaded.

If I didn't already have the Whittaker Special Tkkler en route I'd be selling stuff to get one.

Pair that Fieldcraft w a short reflex suppressor and you would achieve dead critter Nirvana from the truck, ute, stand or on hind legs.

Why did you quite reloading?





A Creedmore Fieldcraft is damn tempting for the Harvester but after IT&D re-barreled three 84M's I think having the barrels threaded is the way to go. Had the Fieldcraft arrived before the rifles went to Dave the game would have changed.

Boring money pit... The only thing I ever needed a "custom" load for was clay pigeons at 500 yards. Knocked "long range" to 300 and schit doesn't matter.

80% return, 20% effort.

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I disagree. A slow twist 22-250 offers no appreciable gain over the 223, in my experience. For big game, the 223 shoots 50-60 grain bullets fast enough to have a practical point and shoot trajectory out to the ranges most big game is killed. I've even stretched it out a bit on big game, killing an antelope buck at around 400 paces with a 52 grain hollow point. I've also used the 223 to take several truck loads of game with 40 grain Ballistic Tips. A whitetail doe was shot facing me head on several years with this bullet; we found the base of the bullet in an inner tenderloin. Pretty good penetration!

Speaking of 40s, they essentially turn a 223 into the 22-250 of 40 years ago. Similar BC to the older non-plastic tipped 50-55s, and the 40s can be fired from a 223 at similar speeds to a factory loaded 22-250 with 50-55s.

The 223 does all of this with less recoil and noise than the 22-250, which really adds up when shooting colony varmints, and can be handy when shooting coyotes for quick recovery and spotting your own shots, especially when shooting from weird positions (such as out of the truck window). The 223 has cheaper factory ammo. The Kimber 223 will shoot heavier bullets - though the Kimber won't quite take advantage of the really high BC heavies, it will likely shoot the 69s, which work fine for stretching the range a bit for plinking and steel, and are available in factory ammo.

Sure, the 22-250 has more velocity and a flatter trajectory with any given bullet, but I find it to be wasted if one can't shoot the heavies. At least for me, if I'm stepping up above the 223 case capacity, I'm stepping up the caliber to 6mm in order to take care of the high bc bullets and wider array of big game bullets.

In 22 caliber, the 223 does everything I want or need for a centerfire.

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Well I didn't ask about fuggin .308

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What about the .30-06 short? (.308)

good idea too , 223 is for pussies.

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Hmmm... does that mean if I sell my .223 Montana I'll be able to grow more facial hair?

.223. If you really want to to have some fun have a custom 1-8 barrel screwed on one and chamber in 243 or 6 Creed.

It is becoming an old arguement, but I agree 223 is light for deer, or atleast restricting. Lung and heart shot almost anything will work. Not sure why a healthy adult would choose 6mm for deer, unless you could only own one gun. Most of I suspect have more than one. You can load 30-06 to 110 grain, if you can only afford one gun.




I like what Elmer Keith said, I want my hunting done when I pull the trigger.

Chris Kyle didn't like it for people either.

I read an article on the Montana, and went to the store to check one out. Really dissapointed. Spend all that money and get a loud safety. I hunt in heavy woods, and to me it is an issue. Counter guy said he uses 2 hands. Deer I shot this year was 20 yards. Hate to get excited and flip off safety.

This is a complaint with my 700 too.

I own, have hunted with, and shot plenty of deer with much bigger. Now I don't see any reason not to use a 6mm. Now I'm not saying it does a better job than anything else, and I mainly use them because my 2 current favorite rifles are chambered in .243 Win, but I have to call BS when I hear people say they're not big enough. Plenty of gun for any deer I'm going to shoot at, and as far as I'm going to be shooting at them.






Two hands to work a safety? New one on me.

Most of my shots are taken at less than 60 yards or so, many much closer, as I primarily hunt the thick stuff too. Never worried too much about safety noise, cause when it comes off it's all but over for the deer anyway.

Can't say I start messing with the trigger or safety out of excitement either, if I did I'd keep a cold chamber until i was ready to shoot. On a side note, the safety on my Xbow is about as loud as a .22 LR. Never lost a shot opportunity because of it.