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FEDERAL TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR ALASKA’S HEALTH INSURANCE

U.S. Senators Dan Sullivan and Lisa Murkowski commended the Trump Administration for granting the State of Alaska an “Innovation Waiver” under the Affordable Care Act.

The “innovation” part of the waiver is actually a transfer of the high cost of health insurance in Alaska to federal taxpayers.

Insurance should go down by 20 percent for consumers, said Seema Verma, administrator for the Affordable Care Act program at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

It’s unclear if the only insurer in the state, Premera Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alaska, will actually lower the cost of insurance and there is no way to force it to. Premera of Alaska made $20 million in profits from “Obamacare” insurance plans in 2016.

The total grant is about $332 million of taxpayer money, according to Gov. Bill Walker. That equates to $15,000 for each of the 23,000 Alaskans who have had to enroll in the mandatory health insurance program.

The State applied for the grant following legislation signed by Walker last year, which gave $55 million to the Alaska Reinsurance Program to help reduce spiraling health insurance costs.

The federal government will reimburse the state $48 million next year. For the following four years, that number may increase with enrollment.

Premera has not yet announced what it will charge Alaskans for the coming year. Enrollment begins Nov. 1.

http://mustreadalaska.com/heads-tails-health-care-bailout-alaska/


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....... is no different than blood money!


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Great, why not look a bit closer at the real problem... I hate price controls and such, but I know a number of docs bringing in obscene money for an ordinary practice. Literally over 2 million for a couple different specialists that are absolutely not workaholics.


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No one seemed to complain when Uncle Ted brought home the pork by the container ship load . . .

We should be proud of Dan and Lisa. blush

Wasn't the ratio under his tenure something like 13:1? (Fed dollars received : dollars paid to the Feds)

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

No one seemed to complain when Uncle Ted brought home the pork by the container ship load . . .

We should be proud of Dan and Lisa. blush

Wasn't the ratio under his tenure something like 13:1? (Fed dollars received : dollars paid to the Feds)

Depends on what and how you count... huge monies to Native Corps inflated his numbers... a lot.


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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

No one seemed to complain when Uncle Ted brought home the pork by the container ship load . . .

We should be proud of Dan and Lisa. blush

Wasn't the ratio under his tenure something like 13:1? (Fed dollars received : dollars paid to the Feds)




Uncle Ted never got a bailout for obamacare. Lisa and Don Young have voted several times to fund it though. I suspect you could put Dan Sullivan in that group now.

I doubt you'll have any problem bailing out Illinois or california should the need arise.


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It's not a "bailout", it's a "subsidy" for the state with the highest health care costs in the nation. crazy

No doubt you're heard of agricultural subsidies?

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Is there any state in the union whose inhabitants have their teeth sunk into the government tit more firmly than Alaska?

Can't think who that might be.

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.. Literally over 2 million for a couple different specialists that are absolutely not workaholics.


Heck, If you charged a nominal fee for "tailgating" on the Emerald Rose, you could approach that amount. Might take longer than one year but, who knows??!!! Don't feed 'em grilled sheep meat though, don't want to spoil them.

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LMAO


https://gov.alaska.gov/newsroom/201...safeguarding-alaskans-healthcare-access/


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Most insurance companies will fly folks looking at surgery to Seattle on their dime First Class, and pay for the whole surgery there. And they come out ahead.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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for the state with the highest health care costs in the nation. crazy



LMAO


https://gov.alaska.gov/newsroom/201...safeguarding-alaskans-healthcare-access/


I am hating on Lisa, Sullivan, and Walker about equally these days.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Most insurance companies will fly folks looking at surgery to Seattle on their dime First Class, and pay for the whole surgery there. And they come out ahead.


Neighbor had her hip replaced in the Big 'Attle. They paid for her hubby to accompany and put them up in a hotel. I'm sure the Ins. Co. saved tens of thousands of dollars.

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Originally Posted by MuskegMan

Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Most insurance companies will fly folks looking at surgery to Seattle on their dime First Class, and pay for the whole surgery there. And they come out ahead.


Neighbor had her hip replaced in the Big 'Attle. They paid for her hubby to accompany and put them up in a hotel. I'm sure the Ins. Co. saved tens of thousands of dollars.

But how do you address the issue of docs overcharging?


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When the Ins. Co. says they won't pay over the "normal and customary" charge for a service, then the patient has to pay out-of-pocket for the exorbitant charges. Burn me once shame on you (doc), burn me twice shame on me. Folks smarten up.

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Something's obviously screwed up when there is one price schedule for bills paid through insurance and another for bills paid out of pocket.


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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Something's obviously screwed up when there is one price schedule for bills paid through insurance and another for bills paid out of pocket.



I have an idea; lets put government in charge and raise taxes to pay for it.


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