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Looking at a new tractor to scrape manure, push snow,etc. 24 HP

My question:

Kubota (2601) or Johnny Deere?
JD is a local dealer. kubota dealer would be 150 miles. Outside contender New Holland, also 150 miles away.


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Service, and parts are a lot bender. The best deal will come along, right after you buy yours.


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I wonder given our general lack of agriculture in the state (hydroponics don't count) how experienced and capable any tractor shop is at servicing and repairing tractors vs. just selling parts.

I'd lean towards Kubota in that size, but that's based on what I've heard. I only have limited experience with the Kubota in that size and one of these days if I can find a reasonably clean older one when I have some spare coins I'd like to get one, though I'm thinking 30hp. Bigger deere's seem to be rock solid.

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Paul- $17.7K difference between the 24 HP and 32 HP JDs.

Our arena has the 24 HP that I have experience with and 95% certain it is all the tractor I see I need.

Wabi- That's true for a lot of things, eh? smile


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Bender, are you thinking new, as in unused?


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I wouldn't be buying a new 30 horse, you can pick up an older used one for ~$20k If I got a tractor it would be with an eye towards eventually building a cabin and the ~20 horse are just a bit small for foundation work.

I understand economy of scale, but the new price for small tractors just leaves me slack jawed.

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yes


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Wow, Bender, I did not know they had Powerball in Ak. Good luck with the new tractor. $$$


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Something to consider in your total cost is financing. I have had the good fortune to buy several JD's on a 0% five year note. The savings in interest expense offsets the up front cost. JD's financing programs vary with the market and those offers may or may not be available in your neck of the woods...

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No such thing as 0% financing. It sounds good, but what it really means is you could get it for ~5% less if you paid cash.

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or take the 0% financing, invest your 30k for the 5 years and make way more than the $1500 they"overcharged" you. smile

Kubota and JD are good. (Japan)
New Holland, Kioti, Montana, LS, McCormick, Branson etc. etc. etc. are all from the LS factory in Korea. Good units too. All 'cept New Holland should be WAY Cheaper than orange or green, but won't hold their value as well. Example. My buddy ordered a 50 hp with cab New Holland, but the dealer missed the delivery promise.....by months. We started checking around and found a blue LS brand tractor for $15,000 less. (Not a miss print, $15,000)
Same exact tractor from the same factory......I Told him to buy some New Holland decals, if he had to have NH.
He can order parts for it from New Holland in fact.
i have a 47hp 4x4 MF I bought used (69 hrs. smile.) It's aJapan (iseki) tractor and is good too, but it will not hold its value like green.....
But I don't plan to sell it anytime soon.
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Fewer dealers here and the only one that is not a 3 hour minimum drive. New holland is farther as of now.

I think local parts and service has value. As of this afternoon, green even has best price.


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A few years back I did the 0%. I was ready to buy so I asked what the price was if I wanted to pay cash...no difference so I did the finance. That dealer has gotten my business on several things.

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We have an LS dealer about a mile away, with a very good selection. The more I see of them, the more impressed I am.

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There is something to the old, "Quality is remembered after price is forgotten".


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JD is the only farm equipment company that hasn't changed.......or gone away. It's still John Deere.
They don't have to have the best, the latest or the most technology........as long as it's Green. smile


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Originally Posted by wageslave
JD is the only farm equipment company that hasn't changed.......or gone away. It's still John Deere.
They don't have to have the best, the latest or the most technology........as long as it's Green. smile




They are still here, but JD has changed.

They make JD's all over the world. A lot of JD's are made in countries and factories that make other tractors as well. It's the green that sells though... And at a much higher price.


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Bought this Kioti CK35 in 2010.......new & delivered for $17K sumthing...came with...

loader.......box scraper......rake..........have since added a......

60" tiller......12" PHD........60" brush hog.........35 HP/3 cylinder diesel.......

machine now has 330 trouble free hours........4x4.......std gear tranny.........

I'd buy another in a minute....good solid machine.......

drove past my game camera earlier this year...........

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Mike,
FWIW,

A friend of mine, who lived (just moved Outside due to wife's job) off of the Palmer-Wasilla Hwy, was born with J-D green & yellow skin. He grew up in corn country and only JD would do. About five years ago he bought a JD the same size you are contemplating and used it year 'round on their property up there.

When I talked with him a few months ago, he had sold his JD and said that he is switching to Kubota for cost reasons. I can't say enough good things about my Kubota L5030. The only repairs I have had were to the front grill and headlights when a wedged blow-down snapped back when I was clearing a trail after a big storm. One battery, fluid & filter changes are all it has needed in 12 years.

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What were the cost reasons?


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