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Shooting 2 actually, of an existing 500 total. (Protected species) his gun rights and hunting rights and fishing right were revoked by the court, he made no attempt at all to comply with the court's conditions for parole.
It has nothing to do with the pig, and everything to do with the fact he was caught gun in hand hunting, without the right to do so. Lock the idiot up.

The cranes landed him on probation. The pigs landed him in jail.


Dave

The pigs probably would've been forgotten about, if he hadn't shot the cranes. Probation aside, his previous conviction exposes him to accelerated standards.

The only thing the pig incident does is show his ongoing disregard for game laws.

What you said is exactly right. They wanted to make an impression on him.

Since shooting the cranes was a Federal violation, I doubt if the restitution for the cranes was to the state of Texas, BUT, the state DOES consider game animals to belong to the citizens of the state, and sets restitution in game law cases.

For the folks too dense to understand the high fence thing, in most cases those fences are around (private) properties containing exotic animals purchased and introduced by the land owner, the state does not want them roaming around free, either. Areas fenced to keep deer in - and out - are generally "managed" habitats, and often for pay hunting leases. Some deer breeders pay large amount for their breeding animals, so yes, they "belong" to the land owner. Fence is usually to keep "native" deer out. Probably should read up on the actual laws and situations they deal with before spouting nonsense in public forums.

Mike

"Parole - Wikipedia
Wikipedia › wiki › Parole
Parole is a temporary release of a prisoner who agrees to certain conditions before the completion of the maximum sentence period, originating from the French parole ("voice", "spoken words"). The term became associated during the Middle Ages with the release of prisoners who gave their word."
He did not even attempt to meet The conditions of his "conditional release ", therefore he put himself into jail. His release was only upon set requirements. Parole is still jail, just jail with more freedom of movement.

Whooping cranes aren't game animals.

Some good posts above, and some laughably off target.

Game belongs to the people, on private (non-high fence) , and public lands. The state and federals are (theoretically and sometimes darkly laughably) our caretaker representatives.

The $ "restitution" is never going to be met, so the post about a lower amount for the next 20 years makes very good sense.

11 months just doesn't seem like enough time for shooting whooping cranes, unless it is for the parole violation on top of much more time for killing the whooping cranes.

Yeah, we have one of these high fence outfits just outside city limits. Backed up right to the freeway, and big signs up facing the road. You are welcome to hunt there. Personally, I prefer to get a bit further from the road noise. It may be different where you are, but they will not get any of my business.

Non-verbally telling a Federal judge to GFY is what landed him in jail.

Who said anything about parole?

"Probation and parole are both alternatives to incarceration. However, probation occurs prior to and often instead of jail or prison time, while parole is an early release from prison. In both probation and parole, the party is supervised and expected to follow certain rules and guidelines.
Difference Between Probation and Parole - Criminal Law - ..."


IF the timing matters to you, pick the term you prefer.

Does Wikipedia list any alternatives to incarceration that don't start with the letter 'P'?

Freed. Released, camuted, time served.....

Camuted, is that like work release?

Nope, just a typo.

A commuted sentence replaces the original, court-ordered sentence. A controversial example is ex-President Bush’s 2007 decision to commute Scooter Libby’s 30-month prison sentence.
Compared to Pardons

Like the pardoning power, the power to commute sentences is in the executive’s discretion; neither the legislative nor judicial branch can interfere with or override that power.

Thank you. That is always my reply. The .gov'ers have a real problem remembering that concept. It's almost like it's... theirs.

Just saw some guy in Kali got 16 years for killing cats. About 20, over 2 weeks. Apparently owned cats vs feral. House cats are not endangered species.

Well, dumbshat, ya gotta be locked up first to be paroled. Probation means ya don't go unless ya kellory up.

No dumshat, you don't have to be locked up first. You should try reading a book, not just using it for a doorstop.

"Parole is "the agreement of persons who have been taken prisoner by an enemy that they will not again take up arms against those who captured them, either for a limited time or during the continuance of the war."[20] The US Department of Defense defines parole more broadly: "Parole agreements are promises given the captor by a POW to fulfill stated conditions, such as not to bear arms or not to escape, in consideration of special privileges, such as release from captivity or lessened restraint."[21]

The practice of paroling enemy troops began thousands of years ago, at least as early as the time of Carthage.[22]"

IF you gave your parole (your word) you did not go to the prison ships, you were free on your bond not to return to the present conflict.

In modern day, U.S military personnel are forbidden to give thier parole. "The Code of the United States Fighting Force states: "I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy."[26 (Assuming you want to keep picking nits over one word choice or another. In this case, they mean Esentially the same. He was forbidden by the court to do certain things, and he did them anyways. )
Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.00, game over.