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the Supreme court has upheld that police interviews of a minor without the presence of consent of a legal guardian or attorney are inadmissible.
that being said the child was could not have been legally mirandized.
In short, the department should be sued and said "officer" dismissed summarily.
That's the only way to end stupid chit like this.

Sue the school, the department, the cop and the teacher.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Good Lord!

What a bunch of fugging lunatics!



Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy



While I completely agree with your thoughts on the allergy angle, I do have to point out that there is no better way to ruin brownies (or fudge) than to stick walnuts or pecans in them. This is not only a matter of taste, but also addresses the fact that there never has been, nor will be, any such addition that did not include bits of the shell of either species.


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Yes, technically NJ but sad to say it is Philly area nonsense (just across the river). What a mess - the adults/parents and folks who ran government and schools when we were kids there in the 40s and 50s were so far above such politically correct stupidity that it's difficult to imagine the transformation to that. Any PD or school official so irrational as to do such a thing back then would have gotten a triple earful of scorn and disdain from just about everyone in the community - for months. Most of the population then were hard-working serious people - many were immigrant families - and none would not have let go of that one. As an example, immediate and no-nonsense knowledgeable response is how the Philly sports fans got their great rep. It is almost impossible to believe that a PD would take such a position and enter into such a deal with "progressive" idiots. Shameful.


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Originally Posted by ringworm
the Supreme court has upheld that police interviews of a minor without the presence of consent of a legal guardian or attorney are inadmissible.
that being said the child was could not have been legally mirandized.


To which Supreme Court are you referring?


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Seems like everyone involved needs a brownie.

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Originally Posted by 5sdad
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Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy



While I completely agree with your thoughts on the allergy angle, I do have to point out that there is no better way to ruin brownies (or fudge) than to stick walnuts or pecans in them. This is not only a matter of taste, but also addresses the fact that there never has been, nor will be, any such addition that did not include bits of the shell of either species.


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I suppose he was being n i g g a r d l y with his brownies! He should have shared with classmates!

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I see what you did there........ grin

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From:

http://www.njpen.com/collingswood-s...-in-controversy-refine-discipline-roles/

The Collingswood school district is no longer expected to refer universally its discipline issues to local police for investigation, except in dealing with “the most serious of crimes,” according to a joint letter issued today by local law enforcement, government, school representatives, and the Office of the Camden County Prosecutor (CCPO).

The school district will continue to follow the statewide Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) outlined by the New Jersey Department of Education and Office of the Attorney General for such instances, but “in all other matters, school officials have complete authority to exercise their discretion” under the rules of the MoA “before deciding to report the matter to law enforcement.”

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The letter also made special mention of the “brownie incident” so widely reported by Philly.com and others, in which police were called to investigate remarks made by a third-grade student at Tatem Elementary School. It describes the student’s comments as “much more incendiary than what has been reported,” and notes that the matter remains under investigation by law enforcement.

“The county and local law enforcement support that the school called the police,” Maley said. “What happened is not what’s being reported. Folks are looking at it, that’s all. And it’s reasonable.”

Oswald said that the stories that have emerged from that incident “couldn’t be further from the truth.

“It wasn’t a comment about a brownie at all in terms of offending an individual,” he said. “It was a comment that immediately rose to the level of an HIB [Harrassment, Intimidation, and Bullying] investigation.”

The superintendent acknowledged that third-grade students can “say things that need to be a learning experience,” but concluded that school staff “did absolutely the right thing by calling the police.”

Collingswood Board of Education President David Routzahn commented that “not only did administrators act properly, but they acted in a manner consistent with ensuring the health and safety of our students.

“We can’t discuss details of it, but I heard for the first time today what was actually said,” Routzahn said. “It is, as it says in the statement, much more incendiary than what is being reported. I was glad that the prosecutor’s office acknowledged that it was handled properly.”

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Originally Posted by mathman
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Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy



While I completely agree with your thoughts on the allergy angle, I do have to point out that there is no better way to ruin brownies (or fudge) than to stick walnuts or pecans in them. This is not only a matter of taste, but also addresses the fact that there never has been, nor will be, any such addition that did not include bits of the shell of either species.


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Originally Posted by bcp
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http://www.njpen.com/collingswood-s...-in-controversy-refine-discipline-roles/

The Collingswood school district is no longer expected to refer universally its discipline issues to local police for investigation, except in dealing with “the most serious of crimes,” according to a joint letter issued today by local law enforcement, government, school representatives, and the Office of the Camden County Prosecutor (CCPO).

The school district will continue to follow the statewide Memorandum of Agreement (MoA) outlined by the New Jersey Department of Education and Office of the Attorney General for such instances, but “in all other matters, school officials have complete authority to exercise their discretion” under the rules of the MoA “before deciding to report the matter to law enforcement.”

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Not about brownies

The letter also made special mention of the “brownie incident” so widely reported by Philly.com and others, in which police were called to investigate remarks made by a third-grade student at Tatem Elementary School. It describes the student’s comments as “much more incendiary than what has been reported,” and notes that the matter remains under investigation by law enforcement.

“The county and local law enforcement support that the school called the police,” Maley said. “What happened is not what’s being reported. Folks are looking at it, that’s all. And it’s reasonable.”

Oswald said that the stories that have emerged from that incident “couldn’t be further from the truth.

“It wasn’t a comment about a brownie at all in terms of offending an individual,” he said. “It was a comment that immediately rose to the level of an HIB [Harrassment, Intimidation, and Bullying] investigation.”

The superintendent acknowledged that third-grade students can “say things that need to be a learning experience,” but concluded that school staff “did absolutely the right thing by calling the police.”

Collingswood Board of Education President David Routzahn commented that “not only did administrators act properly, but they acted in a manner consistent with ensuring the health and safety of our students.

“We can’t discuss details of it, but I heard for the first time today what was actually said,” Routzahn said. “It is, as it says in the statement, much more incendiary than what is being reported. I was glad that the prosecutor’s office acknowledged that it was handled properly.”


Sounds like a whole lotta lying going in in that district.


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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
I suppose he was being n i g g a r d l y with his brownies! He should have shared with classmates!

😂😂😂


I see what you did there........ grin

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Good Lord!

What a bunch of fugging lunatics!



Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy


That boy don't need to bring any nuts to school, it appears theres to many already!


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This. It's finally come to that.

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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Good Lord!

What a bunch of fugging lunatics!



Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy


That boy don't need to bring any nuts to school, it appears theres to many already!


Nah, I think what the school needs is a principal with a pair of nuts.

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Even if the child had called everyone there (site edited me so let's just say the N word),what reason is that to call the police? I guess we really don't have freedom of speech.

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The kid was talking about snacks........... What if he mentioned "crackers"? .......

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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
Originally Posted by ringworm
the Supreme court has upheld that police interviews of a minor without the presence of consent of a legal guardian or attorney are inadmissible.
that being said the child was could not have been legally mirandized.


To which Supreme Court are you referring?


The U.S. Supreme Court has broadened use of the Miranda warning for suspects, extending it to children questioned by police in school. By a 5-to-4 vote, the court said for the first time on Thursday that age must be considered in determining whether a suspect is aware of his or her rights.


http://www.npr.org/2011/06/17/137236801/high-court-age-must-be-considered-in-interrogation


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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by 5sdad
Originally Posted by gunner500


Yeah, and just think Mag, the little bugger probably couldn't even have walnuts or pecans in his brownies because all the other little booger miners grew up in mamas damn sterilized surgical plastic bubble and have nut allergies. crazy



While I completely agree with your thoughts on the allergy angle, I do have to point out that there is no better way to ruin brownies (or fudge) than to stick walnuts or pecans in them. This is not only a matter of taste, but also addresses the fact that there never has been, nor will be, any such addition that did not include bits of the shell of either species.


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LOL, I can respect that 5's we all have different tastes.

Mathman, apparently our friend 5's has never read about me pouring Wifeys homemade rotel in my beer, yes, I eat my beer, and with a good sprinkling of black pepper, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm GOOD. wink


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