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Well, I want(maybe need?) A Win lefty 416 and yes, those barrels are nice. Need to ponder would it be simpler, easier and CHEAPER to rechambered/rebore to 416, chop and flute? Any thoughts. I'm guessing a chop/flute job will be close to a rebore/rechamber in cost, maybe a tad cheaper. I'd call around and ask. It depends on how you want the finished project to look and feel. DF Edited to add, Karl removed around 5 oz with this flute job. He had to work around NECG iron, ended up with 5 instead of the usual 6 flutes. He'd have lost more weight, maybe 6+ oz otherwise.
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Yeah, I'm thinking just a rechambered/rebore with a chop. Don't really need the flutes, would be nice. But.... A few bucks here and a few there add up. Besides, I don't know if a very light 416 is something I'm gonna enjoy. My shoulder? Yes, on the carrying. My shoulder? No!! On the firing.
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The single most useful rifle I have is a Dakota 76 African in .416 Rigby. It has taken DG at 16 paces and PG out to 200 yards.
At 11 lbs loaded with scope, it's a tad heavy, but with a good sling carries well and groups under an inch.
A PH friend has a 1920's Rigby .470 double, but his preferred backup rifle is a custom .416 Rigby built around a pre-war M98 action with open sights.
I also have a Dakota 76 African in 416 Rigby. With CEB Safari Raptor bullets and 100 grains of RL 22, it is a tack driver. One of the most accurate rifles I own. That rifle and my 500 NE have been my 2 gun Dangerous game battery for the past 3 safaris
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Jorge,
What are your thoughts on the PH using solids exclusively.
DF Let me give you my 2 cents worth. Like Jorge said, PH is a different circumstance than the client hunter. In my experience with Cape Buffalo as a hunter and as an observer, good expanding bullets into the shoulder or chest in the case of a frontal shot seem to put them down much faster than solids. The client hunter usually has the luxuary of picking his shot, while the PH is most often either taking a raking shot on a departing wounded animal, or stopping the charge of an agitated animal. It that scenario, penetration is king, and driving a bullet to either break down a hip or shoulder, or to hit the brain/spine/CNS is all important. After using solids in my .450/400, and 9.3 x 62, I went to TSX and RWS H-Mantle for the bolt gun, and 400grn Woodeleigh SP for the double and have been completely satisfied.
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Photobucket sucks... Here's the .375 H&H mentioned, flues by Karl. DF Good looking rifle right there.
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Photobucket sucks... Here's the .375 H&H mentioned, flues by Karl. DF Good looking rifle right there. All function, not much on asthetics. An honest, handy working rifle. Didn't think I was gonna like Tupperware, but the shape is about right, it handles well and you ain't gonna scratch or mess up the finish. The trigger was tuned (by me) to a clean 3#'s, about right, IMO, for such a gun. DF
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I've forced myself to like plastic guns a couple of times. Just couldn't do it. They (all three) went downrange..
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Agree on asthetics, plastic just not that pretty. I guess you gotta look at a rifle like you would a tool to appreciate ugly. I like a beautiful piece of lumber on a find classic action like the next guy. I just hate to scratch up a fancy gun, feel more comfortable with an ugly gun. Here's my custom FN 98 Swede/Shilen in a McWoody. To me this is trying to look pretty and still go synthetic DF
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Nice looking rifle. Gunner500 has my MacWoodie now
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DF, Please let me know if you ever have any interest in sending that 375 down the road:)
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DF, Please let me know if you ever have any interest in sending that 375 down the road:) I finally got it where I want it. Plan to keep it. It's currently my only big boomer, others traded, so it needs to function as a do all medium bore, which I think it'll do quite well. The .375 H&H is very versatile, lots of load options for various applications. Thanks for your interest. DF
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Ha, ha. Didn't figure you would want to part with it. Have a factory stainless classic that hasn't been cut and is sitting in an HS stock. It shoots so dang good I hesitate to cut it. Think I may have to put it in an Echol's stock one of these days and put NECG sights on it.
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Ha, ha. Didn't figure you would want to part with it. Have a factory stainless classic that hasn't been cut and is sitting in an HS stock. It shoots so dang good I hesitate to cut it. Think I may have to put it in an Echol's stock one of these days and put NECG sights on it. Chopping with a good crown won't hurt accuracy. Karl is one of the best with flutes, he could probably do a chop job at the same time. Mine balances very well, was way too barrel heavy before. If I don't like one, I either fix it or move it. I chose to fix this one. DF
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The single most useful rifle I have is a Dakota 76 African in .416 Rigby. It has taken DG at 16 paces and PG out to 200 yards.
At 11 lbs loaded with scope, it's a tad heavy, but with a good sling carries well and groups under an inch.
A PH friend has a 1920's Rigby .470 double, but his preferred backup rifle is a custom .416 Rigby built around a pre-war M98 action with open sights.
I also have a Dakota 76 African in 416 Rigby. With CEB Safari Raptor bullets and 100 grains of RL 22, it is a tack driver. One of the most accurate rifles I own. That rifle and my 500 NE have been my 2 gun Dangerous game battery for the past 3 safaris Dad and I both have 76 Dakotas in .416 Rigby. I'm RH and he's LH. They are a great gun for the money. I actually found his on "The Fire" from a lefty who had it as a safe queen. His .416 Rigby took 3 buffalo in Tanzania, 1 lion in Zim, and 1 buffalo in Zim back in 2015. The 400 grain TSX is a great bullet--we never had an issue with the 6 buffalo we took that year. Unfortunately, the river valley was too open for the double rifles--especially when pursuing for bait more than for sport. For those of you torn between the Rigby and the Remington, go with the traditional African cartridge. There is something to be said for having the same cartridge used in those old safari books that captivated you years ago.
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Agree, kscowboy. My Dakota .416 Rigby is my most useful rifle and the last one I would ever consider selling. I recently handled one of the new .416 Mauser 98's and a .416 by Rigby's latest incarnation (they start out with a Mauser barreled action. Both Rigby and Mauser are now owned by Blaser). They were nice, but I would not trade my Dakota for one. The Dakota always shoots under an inch and is a tried and true safari veteran. It has accounted for multiple cape buff, a lion and many head of other African game, from klipspringer on up. When I leave on safari, my gun case usually contains the Dakota and my .470.
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Dakotas are hard to beat, great guns. You know, we love pictures... DF
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Dakotas are hard to beat, great guns. You know, we love pictures... DF Regarding posting pics, quite honestly, I dunno how it works....
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I think it's suggested to use the image gallery here. It's super easy to use. You then right click over the image, select "copy image location" from the drop down menu, then paste in between the image tags [img] [/img]
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