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Doesn't even come close to being the same thing!
With what you are talking about the points of two alignment bars intersecting and touching as if everything was OK, would need both rings to be off exactly the same amount and in the same direction... almost impossible, thus is why you get one point slightly above/below or to one side... does it hurt to use both way, no... fact is best scenario would be to check using both way's. But point to point is easier to spot unless (both rings are off exactly the same amount and in the same direction).
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It is a good thing First focal plane scopes are not Mobius strips and 2nd focal plane are not Klein bottles or this could turn into 5-Manifold Topology dilemma
This is out of hand! Where's Mathman when we need him? Dock Rocket? I'll never be able to mount a scope again unless we get this figured out.
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tips touching but pens are NOT in a straight line Thank you for proving my point. The tips are not touching, but rather sides just below tip. Thanks.
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But there is no way the tips can not be aligned and the flats,which are perpindicular to the center axis, be right, or vice versa. Question is which is easier to see.
This is the sorce of your problem. You have turned this into an either or situation...or a my way is best argument. We are up to 5 pages now and you can not seem to bring youself to that conclusion...and leave it alone. I am the one who cannot leave it alone? I have said both ways have to be alignmnt, and either will work. I just refute the claim that the points can be lined up, and the flats not lined up. The flats are perpendicular to the center axis, that the points are on. The problem with this site, is the intellectual incest, and butt buddy peer review.
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Wrong, Zerk. Perhaps you can't tell from the poor quality phone photo, but the TIPS are touching...not the sides.
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Now, you wouldn't zerk us around..? DF
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Wrong, Zerk. Perhaps you can't tell from the poor quality phone photo, but the TIPS are touching...not the sides. Something that comes to a point, can only fully touch something else that comes to a point at the point. The points are on a center axis. Both axises have to be lined up for the point to touch. Other wise the point of one is touching part of the point or below the other. If you are going to trust the flats, you have to trust the points also. Comes down to which you think is easier to see. Either way, good for you, to use something.
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Can we switch to polar coordinates so everybody is talking about the same thing.
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This thread has certainly turned into a circle-zerk, if I ever saw one!
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If the center axises are not lined up, the apexes are not touching each other, but rather the sides of the cone. How many points are touching? g
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Geo, Now you've done it, opened a can of worms, introducing a Zerk ball... Too many points, all pointed in the same direction. Zircular logic, round and round, no place to exit, Reminds me of that Cajun they found deceased in a silo. He'd walked himself to death, looking for a corner to take a dump... DF
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LOL, I may have known that Cajun.
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All you need to do is Google Dry v. Lubricated Torque values in either inch/lbs or foot/lbs. You'll get a table that shows both values side by side: Dry vs. Lubricated.
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This thread has certainly turned into a circle-zerk, if I ever saw one! Zerksturbation!!
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All you need to do is Google Dry v. Lubricated Torque values in either inch/lbs or foot/lbs. You'll get a table that shows both values side by side: Dry vs. Lubricated. I backed off three lbs. About hour after it was applied. Which maybe to late for it to reset, but shouldnt be pinching. I will google this thanks. I have seen companies state it for when using anti seize on stainless steel. edit 25%, I thought it would go into fastener size. https://www.antiseize.com/PDFs/torque_specifications.pdfnothing that small listed http://www.unlimited-usa.com/ftpgetfile.php?id=29
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Can we switch to polar coordinates so everybody is talking about the same thing. Only if you can use Z.
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Either way, if you really want to know you have to shoot, and than see what happens when you try walking it. Put your target up using a level.
I use a a 6' carpenter's framing level to hang my targets. If I'm shooting to check tracking I use a plumb bob to get my vertical line. Anything else you want to ask me about, then tell me I'm wrong?
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