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Getting back to the original quest, get a gun that fits them, not you. 20 ga Lightweight, gas operated, 24" barrels, shorter stock. How short should it be for a kid that's 5' 10"? Dave 3-5" -3.75" Well the average male in the United States is now 5' 10". So I guess everybody is carrying the wrong gun. Dave
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DD An FYI After we put some rounds through the Wby guns with the magnum sleeve we find that all but the most anemic loads cycle with it installed. That means we would only use the standard sleeve for clays, if even then. I don't buy the minimum loads ever, since what we hunt requires a bit more oomph, even the valley quail.
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find a Franchi 720 or older 620 and enjoy. light as a feather and the gas system is light on the shoulder. you should be able to have one for well under 700.00 and closer to 550.00 i love my Beretta Urika 2 and if you could find one in 20 ga i think you will be most pleased. but it will go north of 700.00 This is exactly what I did. I got lucky and found a 620, new in the box. A lady had won it in a raffle and didn't need it. My thirteen year old daughter has been shooting it for over a year and she loves it. The piston can be reversed to handle heavy loads. The 620/720 are gas guns, so recoil is very minimal. Let me tell you, this is one sweet dove gun! This set up would be tough to beat IMHO. Of course a 390 in a 20 gauge would be ideal as well. I would also give strong consideration to a Winchester SX3.
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Getting back to the original quest, get a gun that fits them, not you. 20 ga Lightweight, gas operated, 24" barrels, shorter stock. How short should it be for a kid that's 5' 10"? Dave A little shorter. Of course this is a gun for the current 5'10" girl that will be passed on the little brother. In my experience, young ladies are usually handed a gun that is too heavy, too long and too much recoil for them to learn and appreciate the experience. It is much easier to shoot too short a gun, than too long a gun. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/675989797http://www.gunbroker.com/item/675969407http://www.gunbroker.com/item/665410462http://www.gunbroker.com/item/675883263http://www.gunbroker.com/item/651411450http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676475437
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Turkey and bunnies..............short bbl fine. Dove, geese and clays..............26" seems kinda short.
What a kid prefers at the start, may not be what they like after getting a little experience. Ramblings of a genius. Dave They come into shops and like the short light M500's. Pieces of chit. Whop 'em pretty good.
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Drink less.
Or more.
Whichever makes you less dumb.
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DD An FYI After we put some rounds through the Wby guns with the magnum sleeve we find that all but the most anemic loads cycle with it installed. That means we would only use the standard sleeve for clays, if even then. I don't buy the minimum loads ever, since what we hunt requires a bit more oomph, even the valley quail. Good to know. Thanks.
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Benelli M2 or Franchi auto would be my pick .
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The ones I have a lot of experience with that I can recommend highly are largely Benelli's, specifically the M2, the Montefeltro, and the Ultralight. These are three top tier SA shotguns; of course the legacy would be the same but fancier and more expensive. And I've used Franchi's and Beretta's too. There isn't one of the other recognized names I'd carry except as a club.
I believe the Ultra- has a magazine limit of two with one in the chamber, at least this is true of the 12 ga. I've never found that limiting even in SD pheasant fields where there might be a dozen birds in the air simultaneously.
As to cost, I would add that it's all relative not just to the other shotguns' costs but to everything else. It's kind of amusing to me that some will spend $55k on a new truck but will balk at a $1k shotgun that'll have many times the life span of the vehicle and can be handed across or down to other family.
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Hard to argue with that, George.
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20 guage Montefeltro on classifieds right now for $700. Thats a steal for somebody.
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That being said, it is also hard to justify not spending $3-500 on a decent reliable shotgun that fits and then selling it a few years later at a small loss, and buying a legacy gun when the user is done with it.
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i'm partial to the Franchi Affinity. The ONLY drawback i could think of with it is its kinda stiff to load especially when new. it would be fine for a grown man and my 13 yr old son does fine with his but has learned how to load it best. thats all the negatives i can think of. i absolutely love mine. good luck, Big Ed
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