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I switched to Barnes TTSX quite a while ago for performance reasons well before my socialist state mandated non lead to save the ugly condors. But I really like elk burgers and grind a lot of my elk. I'm skeptical of the exaggerated health hazard claims but when I see X-rays that show ultra small particles spread through meat outside what would normally be bloodshot waste I'm glad I'm not grinding up lead in my delicious elk burgers.

Has anyone made the change just based on avoiding lead in their meat?

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Nope., Several studies thru out the world has shown that hunters using lead bullets do not have anymore,and many times less lead in their bodies than non lead users.

It it were true, I'd be dead long ago.Growing up in the 50's we ate a lot of small game shot with shotguns/pellets and ingested more than a few.

I don't worry a bit about lead, but I am VERY fussy what goes into my burger.


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Me either.



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I switched to Barnes TTSX when the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw was no longer available. Not overly excited about lead in meat, but dislike any metal fragments in my meat. I just like a bullet that stays together and makes a decent exit wound. Lets the air right out of them! Happy Trails


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No. I spread the love between leaded and unleaded.

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It it were true, I'd be dead long ago.

I don't believe outright death is a symptom of lead poisoning in humans.

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Originally Posted by specneeds
I switched to Barnes TTSX quite a while ago for performance reasons well before my socialist state mandated non lead to save the ugly condors. But I really like elk burgers and grind a lot of my elk. I'm skeptical of the exaggerated health hazard claims but when I see X-rays that show ultra small particles spread through meat outside what would normally be bloodshot waste I'm glad I'm not grinding up lead in my delicious elk burgers.

Has anyone made the change just based on avoiding lead in their meat?


Long story, but I've been exposed to more lead than just about any person you could meet.

Guess what my blood results always show? Below average.

I rank lead concerns right up there with global warming. Bunch of horse schit.



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Nope...if I didn't die from loading mouthfulls of lead bb's into my guns 55 or so years ago, I figure I'm ok. I should have been dead by 8, 9 years old if that was the case. Made it to 59 so far.

Countless doves, ducks, quail with the occasional pellet....guess I'm a dead man walking...

Seriously, I don't give it a second thought because I process my own meat...and I'm obsessively picky and clean...


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Originally Posted by WAM
I switched to Barnes TTSX when the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw was no longer available. Not overly excited about lead in meat, but dislike any metal fragments in my meat. I just like a bullet that stays together and makes a decent exit wound. Lets the air right out of them! Happy Trails


Give a North Fork a try if you loved TBBC's....they'll make you cry tears of joy. More accurate, less fouling...same great terminal performance.


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Metallic lead is really quite safe. Lead _salts_ are what your body will readily absorb and cause you problems. Lead salts come from the lead styphnate in primers, old lead paint, and things like those, but lead salts don't particularly come from metallic lead.

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I carried some lead fragments in my body for a couple years before they worked their way out the exit hole.
No residual problems from that so not sure I want to believe all the hype.


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Originally Posted by deflave
...I've been exposed to more lead than just about any person you could meet.


I knew if I hung around long enough there'd be an explanation.


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Originally Posted by MZ5
Metallic lead is really quite safe. Lead _salts_ are what your body will readily absorb and cause you problems. Lead salts come from the lead styphnate in primers, old lead paint, and things like those, but lead salts don't particularly come from metallic lead.


I'd add any aerosol lead to the list like oxide dust and lead vapors from casting.

It's not about what lead you are exposed to but what lead your body absorbs.

Metallic lead is very deadly to birds because they have a totally different digestive system than humans do, and that's why lead is banned for waterfoul and game within the Condor range.


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Used Federal Trophy Copper to kill a cow.
Worked fine but I went back to lead just for convenience I guess.


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Metallic lead is really quite safe. Lead _salts_ are what your body will readily absorb and cause you problems. Lead salts come from the lead styphnate in primers, old lead paint, and things like those, but lead salts don't particularly come from metallic lead.


I'd add any aerosol lead to the list like oxide dust and lead vapors from casting.

It's not about what lead you are exposed to but what lead your body absorbs.

Metallic lead is very deadly to birds because they have a totally different digestive system than humans do, and that's why lead is banned for waterfoul and game within the Condor range.



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Originally Posted by MZ5
Metallic lead is really quite safe. Lead _salts_ are what your body will readily absorb and cause you problems. Lead salts come from the lead styphnate in primers, old lead paint, and things like those, but lead salts don't particularly come from metallic lead.


This is ignorant BS. There is well more than enough chlorine available between your lips and [bleep] to make all the lead chloride you need to cause damage to your CNS. Chlorine is exceptoinal at mobilizing lead. Your stomach uses hydrochloric acid to break down your food.

Lead is always toxic. Lead may be encapsulated like any foreign body and walled off from the rest of your body and thus not so likely to poison you. But, it can also be liberated in the process of your body trying to expel it. The lysing enzimes your body used to break down protein like that it uses to encapsulate foreign bodies will moblize lead. For childbearing women and small children there is no known safe lead level.

I use no lead for shooting animals I intend to eatand I am quite happy to do so because the copper bullets that have been available since Barnes solved the X bullets initial problems are in my opinion superior to cup and core lead in almost all ways.

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